Harbor Freight just came out with new 2nd generation tool storage products. The Harbor Freight US General Series 2 tool boxes are said to be bigger, stronger, and more stable.
AND the new 13-drawer tool boxes seem to meet the requirements to be exempted from tariffs that will be put into place, resulting from a Waterloo-petitioned US International Trade Commission investigation.
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The excluded industrial grade steel tool chests and cabinets are those:
(1) having a body that is over 60 inches wide; or
(2) having each of the following physical characteristics:(a) a body made of steel that is 0.047 inches or more in thickness;
(b) a body depth (front to back) exceeding 21 inches; and
(c) a unit weight that exceeds the maximum unit weight shown below for
each width range:[290 lbs for a tool cabinet 40″ ≤ 42″ wide.]
Looking at the new rolling tool cabinet, it’s 22″ deep, and weighs 291 lbs. Its body thickness is not disclosed, but I would presume the sheet metal is at least 0.047″ thick.
Here are some of the Harbor Freight Series 2 US General tool box features:
- Extra deep high capacity drawers
- Heavy duty full-extension drawer slides
- Welded steel construction
- Wide wheel base
- 90° lid with gas struts on all carts
- Non-slip drawer liners
- Red powder coat finish
- High security barrel key locks
The new cabinet measures 44″ wide x 22″ deep x 40″ tall. Drawer depth has been increased to 19-3/8″, compared to 16″ for the 18″ cabinet.
They say this about the drawer slide load ratings:
Tall drawers feature 2 pairs of ball-bearing slides to support up to 80 lbs. per drawer.
So… are the shallower drawers only rated to 40 lbs per drawer?
The listed storage capacity of the Harbor Freight US General Series 2 tool cabinet is around the same as for the previous model, which is odd and likely a mistake; the new box is advertised as offering 20% greater storage capacity.
US General tool boxes have been popular, due to their size, tool storage capacity, and price points.
The new Series 2 tool cabinets offer a big bump-up in size. Going from a depth of 18″ to 22″, and drawer depth from 16″ to 19-3/8″ substantially increases what can be stored away in the drawers.
Hmm, I wonder why the drawers aren’t slightly deeper even. Maybe it’s to ensure a certain level of strength?
Curiously, but perhaps not surprisingly, the new US General Series 2 tool cabinet weighs just 1 pound heavier than required to be exempted from pending US ITC tool box tariffs. The top chest is also just 1 pound heavier than the officially documented threshold for tool storage products up to 44″ wide.
Price: $450 after coupon
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The 18″ Series 1? cabinet is currently priced at $400. So for $50 more, you get a much bigger tool cabinet.
The 18″ cabinet has a 44″ overall length, but is also described as being a 42″ cabinet. On that model, the top full-width drawer is 36-7/8″.
The new US General Series 2 cabinet looks like it might have a different side handle. It’s described as being a 44″ box, with a length of 44-1/2″. The full-width drawer is also said to be 36-7/8″ wide. BUT there are a bunch of typos and mistakes in the specs list and product description, and so you can’t trust this just yet.
I’m a little confused by some of the other specs, and will reach out to Harbor Freight to see if they can clear some things up.
I wonder what will happen to the price of the 18″ US General tool cabinet once the “Tool Boxes from China” tariffs go into effect.
While many of us like larger and deeper tool boxes, an industry insider recently pointed something out to me. When you increase tool box depth, you increase the size of the cabinet, as well as the clearance needed to open a drawer.
So, hypothetically, if you increase the depth of a tool box by 4″, and the drawer depth increases by 4″ as well, the drawers will then extend out 8″ further in comparison.
The email announcement says that the Series 2 drawers are 19-3/8″ deep. So that’s a 3-3/8″ increase compared to the 18″ cabinet’s 16″ drawer depth. Thus, Harbor Freight US General Series 2 tool box has increased depth of 4″ and increased drawer depth of 3-3/8″. Combined, this means full-extension on a Series 2 tool box will require 7-3/8″ greater depth than to fully open a drawer on the smaller tool cabinet.
Here’s a good question to think about: would these tool boxes have come out if not for the whole ITC anti-dumping investigation and proposed tariffs on tool boxes imported from China? Also, if Harbor Freight did design the tool box around the tariff exemption criteria, how might have that affected its features, such as drawer sizing?
Frank says
I ordered the bottom box last week, waiting on it to arrive still. A bunch of my coworkers have the older version and it’s pretty decent. I would love to buy a Snapon, Lista, Proto, Waterloo or other American box but the prices are outrageous. I think the tariff will just result in the Chinese making better boxes at the same price point and the American manufacturers still trying to sell their same product.
Craig says
It seems the tariffs are meant to keep out the Chinese-made junk that doesn’t compete with high quality U.S.-made toolboxes anyway. Now China will ship better quality products made with government subsidies and they will still sell cheaper than U.S.-made products. These tariffs only give U.S. manufacturers and incentive to start making junk since there will be less Chinese competition on the low end.
Whiskey and wood says
Buying American made junk that employs Americans and circulated money through our economy is still better than buying Chinese junk that sends our economy overseas and employs Chinese workers, plus not everyone wants a tools chest that can hold 45,000 pounds, for me, the cheap husky units work fine, I’d rather buy a us made one though!
firefly says
Though I am less inclined to buy junk regardless of origin. I think most of us would rather take US junk over China junk any day of the week given similar price range.
It’s not so clear however when we have to choose between American made junk vs Chinese made of decent quality given the same price range.
Craig says
The Husky I’m looking at for a lower price actually has a higher load rating per drawer though the chest only has nine drawers compared to HF’s with 13. Marked down to $248 right now.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Extra-Deep-46-in-9-Drawer-Mobile-Workbench-H46MWC9XD/303101236
Marvin McConoughey says
The notion that China sells at a deep discount to their actual costs is a popular belief. The reality is that China has vastly increased its wealth and power by actually making things cheaper and more cost efficiently than does the United States. That is why they can afford to invest billions in American government treasuries and other forms of our debt. China makes money on what it sells here.
Eric M. says
I’m glad you mentioned the additional space and clearance needed for the Series 2 box. That is my concern as many of the houses in my area have narrower garages due to smaller lot sizes. While I’d like the additional depth, the Series 1 boxes are about as deep as I could get by with. Will the Series 1s be phased out?
Stuart says
I don’t know, but that’s something I can ask.
Justin Mitchell says
Well Crap. They don’t have the Series 1 top chests or side cabinets on the website anymore. That really sucks for those of us that have the old style!
Justin Mitchell says
Called the local stores and nobody has the Series 1 either, and warehouse is empty. That’s really disappointing. It seems like there’s no way to get the old style attachments.
Justin says
Is there going to be a series 2 56″ and 72″ chest as well or just the smaller?
Brian Kerley says
They are not selling series 1 anymore. Stores sold off theirdisplay models last month
Al Baran says
I like the 18″ deep cabinets for the clearance reasons mentioned above. Note that the 56 and 72inch cabinets that have the 18″ depth are still for sale. They do fall under the tariff exemption guidelines.
Ryan says
I read that the shallow depth allows them to put 3 wide in a shipping container.
Dale Carter says
The interior width of a shipping container is 90-92″, depending on the length of the container. That means that the depth of three cabinets would not matter, but an inch or two on the width, could. Two 44″ wide boxes are 88″ before the packaging, so the box could only exceed the width by 1″ on each side before the maximum width of a 24′ container was exceeded. If you packed them with the narrow side out, four 18″ boxes, with 1″ of packaging on each side would be 80″ and four 21″ boxes, with the same packaging, would be 92″ wide. You can’t put more 18″ boxes in and the 21″ boxes would be a more efficient use of space.
Sorry, due to a previous career, I am a nerd about shipping. 🙂
jason says
Saw and touched the “NEW” boxes at HF yesterday, and I have 2 “OLD” bottom chests at home to compare. Depth increase is noticable, especially in the large bottom drawer – it looks like it would hold A LOT. However as noted, the extra depth compounds into a extended drawer needing a lot more open space in front of it.
Fit and Finish look better than my older “krinkle” finished ones.
Impressed? Yes, especially at the $450 price point for the lower chest
Would I buy one? Yes, if I had the space
Will I buy one? No, my current chests are in front of my vehicles, and I need the floor space of the narrow old style.
Stephen Garvin says
Also on the phase-out question. I have always wanted one of their 26″ cabinets and am starting to really need to storage. Do you think this will go away as well? Any chance of a closeout deal?
Thanks, Steve.
teicher says
Latest catalog shows the 26″ mixed in with the other Series 2, so it might be getting the update. It’s listed at $399.
I have the smooth red 26″ ( series 1?), got it for $269.99 at a parking lot sale a couple years back. There hasn’t been a single day that I’ve regretted it, it was and still is one of the best boxes out there for the money. Nothing at Sears, Home Depot or Lowes even came close to the quality of the HF at this price point.
Adrian says
I’ve been eying the 26″ stack as well and it is totally gone from their website. Both product IDs turn up no results. I so wanted that due to the space saving and narrow drawers for smaller hand tools.
Jim D says
I think you meant substantially, not substantial. Great find though. I really want one of these. It seems like a really good price!
Stuart says
Thanks, fixed it!
Brian says
The rating seems really low, 80lbs for a 4 rail drawer? Assuming that large top drawer also has 4 rails…that’s a large drawer to only hold 80lbs. 80lbs means you can’t put your socket sets in there if you have enough to fill the drawer. With the depth, I think you’d go over filling it with just about anything. Hopefully it’s a misprint because otherwise it sounds pretty darn good.
Craig says
I can’t find the max weight each drawer can hold. I went to HF website and even downloaded user manual. I see that the box as a whole can hold 2640 lbs which works out to 203 lbs. per drawer if all drawers were equal but I assume the drawers with two rails have a higher rating than those with one.
PatrickD says
Unexpected result of tariffs – imports get better, still kick ass on price… Waterloo’s entry level boxes still suck. Great! 🙂
Mahalo says
Laid eyes on one of these today by coincidence. My initial impression was that these looked nicer than the old model. I don’t believe the drawers had latch, though. But I never liked the cheap drawer latches on the previous model anyway.
Eric says
If they really wanted to get competitive they’d make a version with a “roll down top” like Milwaukees or Huskys I think Dewalt makes some to I looked at lowes at the kobalt a with the roll down top but the height really wasn’t enough to store anything practical that is want to store there that’s y I ended up going with Milwaukee I looked at harbor freight thinking I’d get a better deal but it was going to cost me more for the full set up and still not have a roll down top that I was looking for
Bill K says
These new US General boxes sound good and their great prices make them very appealing. Like most of my tool purchases, I’d love to read a ToolGuyd detailed review before they would be considered by me. Hint… Hint!
Traviscm says
The only thing holding me back before was the depth. Now I have no excuse.
Dominque says
The us general boxes are always getting good reviews, And they are very reasonable, price wise. I think they will sell a lot of them.
mattd says
You can also see this depth change with the new husky mobile workbenches that are 24″ deep (spring black friday sale actually has them cheaper than their 18″ counterparts). I expect to see a lot more of the boxes going deeper because of the tariffs.
Michael Kuck says
I just wish I could get on black to match my other toolboxes… Not a fan of red.
Alan Sullivan says
Harbor Freight already made a better box than any of the competition at their price point. Looks like they will continue to do that with an even better capacity. I don’t know why everyone focuses on Milwaukee, Husky, and Kobalt when Harbor Freight has always put out a superior product, in my experience at least.
fred says
Maybe its because when you mix your gems in among the rhinestones and the glass its hard for some folks to take HF seriously. Then too their are folks who are enamored with having the Dewalt or Milwaukee name on their toolboxes. In our shops – we had Lista and Vidmar – and I was happy that neither brand seemed compelled to emblazon their name in oversized letters.
Joe says
I’m no HF guy, but they make good tool boxes for the price. I just can’t buy non American products.
Greg says
I don’t know if it’s been mentioned but they got rid of the plastic locking tabs on these boxes for the draws. Now only the 56″ and 72″ rollers have those. Kinda disappointing in that regard. The draws don’t really have anything keeping them from accidentally opening on this box either. I played with it a bunch in the store today. Fine if it’s not moving around at all in your garage but otherwise I’d say a downgrade from the previous box depending on how you look at it (if you weren’t a fan of the plastic tabs then you’ll be happy).
Don M. says
The previous version of this box never had the plastic locking tabs to my knowledge – had to be the 56/72″ or the rolling cart to get those. My 44″ box that I bought new ~4 years ago only has detents, no locking tabs and I thought they’d always been that way.
Lynyrd says
It will be interesting to see if they update the 56″ and 72″ boxes. Also, I can understand the inventory savings to stock only one color, but . . . I have to think that Black would ultimately outsell Red. Seems like the Black and Blue Carts sold out quickly, but maybe just because they were new.
Peelman says
i’m guessing this is why Menards phased out their old Masterforce boxes in favor of much deeper 24” models.
Dave B says
Black/blue will be out soon according to a manager at my local store. He also said some stores already have them on the way but I cannot confirm that.