Dewalt has come out with a new 20V Max dual-battery cordless lawn mower, model DCMWSP244U2.
Thank you to everyone who wrote in about the new Dewalt cordless mower. I’ve been waiting for a press release or other such press/media materials, but Dewalt has not yet made any official announcements. As such, the only available details are from Home Depot’s product listing, where the new mower is currently available for purchase.
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Dewalt’s original 2x20V Max XR cordless mower (reviewed by Benjamen here) suffered from poor battery life. There’s no mincing words, the 5Ah batteries that it was kitted with were simply inadequate for the amount of use one could reasonably expect to push the mower through in a single grass-trimming session.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Dewalt is launching their new DCMWSP244U2 cordless lawn mower kit with brand new 20V Max 10Ah battery packs. Like its predecessor, the new mower is powered by 2x 20V Max batteries, and so with the kit you have 400 watt-hours of power and charge capacity at the tool’s disposal.
Dewalt increased the size of the cutting blade as well, from a 20″ deck size and 19″ cutting width to a 21.5″ deck size and – if Home Depot’s specifications are accurate – 20″ cutting width.
Dewalt claims 50 or 60 minutes of runtime for the new mower when powered by 10Ah batteries, with the rating depending on what part of the product page you’re looking at. They also say that the mower should be a good fit for properties of up to 1/2 acre.
Features include adjustable self-propelled wheels, a steel deck, and high-output direct drive brushless motor. The new Dewalt cordless mower has 6 cutting heights, from 1.5 to 4.5 inches, and 3-in-1 mulching, bagging, and side discharge capabilities.
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The mower has an “auto sensing” feature that is said to increase torque when mowing through areas with high overgrowth.
We haven’t received any press information or product details yet, and so we are unable to answer any questions you might have.
Home Depot’s website has quite a few “received free product” customer reviews, but there’s not much useful information in there except for comments that the mower doesn’t have any speed controls and comes with single-port chargers.
Price: $549 for the kit
Dewalt has also come out with a new 20V Max cordless push mower, DCMWP233U2.
The other mower, DCMWSP244U2, has a self-propelled drive, and the DCMWP233U2 is a strictly walk-behind push mower.
Dewalt says that the DCMWP233U2 cordless mower will operate for up to 70 minutes of cutting runtime when powered by 2x 10Ah batteries.
It looks like the main differences, aside from the self-propelled mechanism, are cosmetic with some yellow components on one mower being black on the other, and vice versa.
Dewalt has not yet provided any press materials for this mower either. As with the self-propelled mower, there are quite a few “received free product” user reviews on Home Depot’s website.
Price: $399 for the kit
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It looks like Dewalt increased the size of their 20V Max 2-battery cordless power, and also added a new self-propelled option. And, they now have new 10Ah batteries to provide hopefully ample runtime.
While Dewalt previously offered 9Ah and 12Ah FlexVolt cordless power tool batteries, the 10Ah batteries achieve such charge capacity with fewer Li-ion cells, presumably making them less expensive to manufacture and bundle with the mower kits.
Dewalt has had several years to improve upon their 2x20V Max cordless mower, but it’s unclear as to what else is different about the two new mowers aside from the larger deck size, cutting width, and self-propelled drive.
The DCMW220P2 mower kit is still available, but I would expect it to be discontinued soon, seeing as how it retails for the same $399 at Home Depot as the new push mower.
It’s surprising that the new push mower kit is the same price as the previous one, despite having 2x 10Ah batteries instead of 2x 5Ah batteries. Higher capacity batteries and a larger cutting width at the same price? Is there a catch that I’m not seeing?
For an additional $150, you can upgrade to the self-propelled version.
How do these new Dewalt cordless mowers compare against other brands’ mowers?
Can the mowers be used with Dewalt’s lower capacity 20V Max Li-ion batteries? Well, there’s a reason you can only buy them in kit bundles right now, with the 10Ah batteries.
There’s also the question about how well the 10Ah batteries will perform compared to Dewalt’s lower capacity 6Ah and 8Ah batteries. Generally, the maximum power delivery of Li-ion battery cells tend to decrease with higher charge capacity, but I would guess that the 10Ah batteries could be used with all of Dewalt’s 20V Max tools without any power or performance concerns. Keep in mind that Dewalt’s highest performance tools are found in the FlexVolt cordless power tool line, which won’t work with 20V Max batteries.
It’s disappointing that Dewalt has yet to provide any press materials when the mowers are already available for sale and with a couple of a dozen “received free product” reviews spread between the two mowers’ Home Depot product listings. What does that mean about these products or their competitiveness?
Dewalt also recently came out with new FlexVolt cordless outdoor power tools that are attachment-ready.
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Teaser: New Dewalt FlexVolt Modular Cordless Outdoor Power Tool System
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SaturnFire
Why couldn’t they make it 2 60v and be done with it? I will give my Husqvarna with AWD and Honda 190CC engine for now. Gas is cheap. I need to move 2/3 acre.
SaturnFire
***oops I meant I will KEEP my Husqvarna AWD for now…
Stuart
Dewalt had a 40V Max mower but they have since discontinued the entire product line.
Robm
I have the the 40v mower and I love it. I’m rather bummed out they discontinued the line.
Big Richard
Robm, if you are looking for backup batteries, the 7.5Ah monster is currently $152.33 on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019Z72F6U/
Best deal I’ve seen on the 40v batteries.
Lance
DeWalt has left customers stranded before by discontinuing battery lines… their original 18V Li-Ion products were discontinued after a short run when their 20V Max line came out. The writing was on the wall for their 40V stuff as soon as they announced the FlexVolt lineup, even though they swore at the time the 40V line would continue to be supported.
Milwaukee did the same with their V18 line of Lithium Ion tools when they launched M18.
Numerous other brands have discontinued Li-Ion OPE battery platforms, and Li-Ion OPE has only been around for a few years. There’s no accountability to the customer.
Corey Moore
The 40v definitely fits with your point, but I’d say DeWalts older 18v platform is the perfect example of a company not screwing customers over. You can still get those packs everywhere, and they made their own adapter to allow the old tools to run off new batteries. Aside from never moving from that stem-pack design, I don’t know what more you could ask a manufacturer to do to hook up their customers, as best case scenarios go.
Stuart
18V tools and batteries were still being produced for a while, the line just wasn’t expanded. Granted you had to hunt for the tools and batteries, but they were still available.
If I recall correctly, I witnessed 18V tools still being assembled in 2015.
I don’t show the photos, but this is the event where it happened:
https://toolguyd.com/dewalt-brushless-drill-building-and-factory-tour/
Jason
It’s a two way street. Not many people were buying the 40v line so retailers didn’t want to carry it. It’s hard to keep making something when no retailer want to carry it because customers aren’t buying it. Make no mistake, Dewalt would still be making the 40v line if it was popular, but it wasn’t.
Stephen Sims
I just purchased the new dewalt 21.5 lawnmower with power drive. I understand what you are saying. As I need to buy 20v batteries to use in my sandersandrouter do to the wate of the 60v. It was a bonus for me. I already have 60v. Which I have only used in it. I think they could offer it with 60v 9a batteries for a bit more. But the biggest thing is the charges that come with it. They are a joke!!! Must small then the one’s that come with all the power tools. If I didn’t have nice dewalt charger already I would have bin very disappointed. A bit pissed really. But I have to say so far it has really impressed me with the cutting power it has. You would not believe the stuff I was cutting up today. It just plowed right through it. Grass 12 inches high!
Sonia
I have this lawn purchased 5 months ago at home depot with no bags, batteries or charger for $100.00 brand new – they claimed items above had been stolen from the display model – I use 2 – 20v 2ah batteries, this lawnmower is the BEST ON THE MARKET!! You DO NOT NEED the 10ah batteries to run this mower. I have a 1/4 acre of THICK LAWN and it’s perfect!!!JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW.
Andrew
My worry is will these batteries have a problem with burning up since they are using 5ah 18650 cells, just seems like a lot of abuse for the batteries when they could just use a 8ah with 21700s.
Stuart
Why would the 10Ah batteries be engineered with 18650-sized cells?
Robm
I highly doubt they are 18650 cells.
Lance
Hi current 5Ah 18650 cells do not exist, to my knowledge anyway. I’m 99% sure these will be using larger 21700 cells.
Tom M
I had the older mower and used it with 9ah Flexvolt batteries. The runtime was about 45-50 minutes for each set of batteries, so the runtime doesn’t seem too far out of line. When you have the right batteries, it’s a great mower. These will be worth a look if you’re already on the Dewalt platform, but if I were to do it all over again I would probably invest in Ego since they have a much better selection of OPE in general.
Lance
A dedicated high voltage platform for OPE is surely the right way to go. Small power tool batteries are awesome, for small power tools.
Edmund S
I agree completely
red92s
It’s unfortunate they won’t offer this as a bare tool to let Flexvolt owners take advantage of batteries they already own at a lower price. But I guess the risk is people getting abysmal results using smaller batteries they already own and having the star rating on Amazon get tanked.
Still seems like Milwaukee shoulda thrown a hat in this ring by now. Dewalt is about to release their 2nd generation mower and Milwaukee is still on the sidelines.
Big Richard
The bare tool would likely be at least $299. So for an extra $100 you can get 20Ah of pure juice? Even if you have FlexVolt batteries lying around, you would be silly not to take advantage of that.
Chris I
Yeah. Silly, red…..
Robm
I’m fairly certain Milwaukee will bring one over since AEG has a mower. So I’m fairly certain they’ll bring over one soon enough. TTI seems to be fairly focused on their core tools and 12v line at the moment
Lance
If you have to buy a mower as a kit to get appropriate batteries anyway, why stick with a small power tool battery platform for OPE? Just get a proper high voltage OPE platform and be done with it, in my opinion.
Kunkel
To be fair, then you can at least leverage those 18v batteries in any existing DeWalt (or Makita, or Milwaukee if they make a mower) tools you might have.
Steve
I could see someone buying the self propelled mower bare tool and expecting to run it on the 2 x 1.3Ah batteries they got in their “Special Buy” DCD771C2 kit they already have then complaining about it. It makes sense to bundle it with the 2 x 10Ah batteries. Would have been nice if they had thrown in the DCB102 to go with it.
JoeM
I think I have a theory on the question “Why” asked all over this release.
Because they know how bad they did on the first mower release.
That’s right. I, a DeWALT devotee, openly admits that DeWALT screws up tools at times. The old Mower, as per Benjamen, was underpowered. I believe the “Silent Release” of these two mowers, that come kitted with, the ALSO silent rleased, 10Ah Battery Packs, are only in existence to quietly hide their screwup on the first one. Same Mower, now in two versions, AND they finally shipped it with enough battery power to actually DO something with the mowers that is reasonable.
All that being said… I do wonder if there’s enough room to fit two 12Ah FlexVOLT batteries in there. Because I think anything short of some sort of modified RIDING Mower in the FlexVOLT line, nobody is going to be impressed with them after the first mower’s bad choices, and this silent release situation.
Big Richard
I mow my lawn regularly, so the gen I had zero power issues for me. The only issues were the 5Ah batteries it was originally kitted with, which I never really used, and the 19.25″ cut swath was on the small side. Still, two 9Ah FlexVolt batteries is good for around 45 minutes and allows me to mow my double corner lot of about 12,000 sq ft.
There is absolutely no way that they are “silently” releasing this to cover up the first generations shortcoming.
And yes, a 12Ah FlexVolt fits, as does the 9Ah because they are the same size.
Kunkel
They already have Flexvolt blower, trimmer, chainsaw… I can’t help but go “??” that they didn’t launch a flexvolt mower.
It would 100% skirt the entire “small batteries” issue.
Having 20V available for other OPE makes sense to “just jump in” with batteries you already own, but a mower is a bigger device and a good place to offer a higher performing platform.
Nyall
I would appreciate a 60v mower but I can understand why they didn’t do it. There are lot of variables to juggle. These are my ramblings.
Even if it was 60v, the largest 60v battery is the 12ah (very pricey) which would be undersized (240watt-hours). So you still have the necessity of using two batteries to increase the watt-hours (=runtime.) They could have the user swap to a new battery mid mow. I would do it, but I wouldn’t like it. And then people would give it poor reviews.
How much would the kit cost if it was bundled with two 12ah batteries? $600 maybe. That is too pricey for a homeowner. When the gen1 mower was bundled with 9ah batteries home depot asked $500, which is also pricey.
If they want to compete in store with the ryobi models then it needs to be $400. To get to that price point it looks like they engineered a cheaper high amp-hour battery that is geared around endurance rather than peak amp discharge. (I’m possibly assuming too much.. I really want to see a tear down) That “cheap with endurance” battery could have been engineered to be a 60v flexvolt, but then people would slap it on their SDS drills and get an under performing tool.
Finally a 60v battery/mower looses the selling point that you can use ordinary batteries on the mower (something I’d never do) Or use the bundled 10ah batteries with your 20v drill, or other 20v outdoor power equipment.
Stephen Sims
Yes there is more than enough room for the 12ah batteries! And one large. I think they should offer it with 20v10 ah and the 60v 9 ah batteries. But I am very impressed with it so far. But I am running 60v 6ah batteries in it.
Chris Shelton
I ordered a DCMW220P2 from ACME TOOLS on November 5th, 2020. They still haven’t shipped it. It’s probably all ready out of stock. Using the DEWALT50 discount code ($50.00 off) It brought the total cost down to $349.00. I thought that was a good deal. So now I have to cancel that order and SEE if they will let me use the discount code again. TBD
Big Richard
It’s only additional $100 for the self propelled, $499.
Another difference between these new mowers and the gen I, is that these have a more efficient motor that increases power/torque only when it senses increased load rather than running full bore all the time.
You can use smaller capacity batteries, but you obviously lose runtime. The kitted 10Ah are optimized for this setup as their lack of power is compensated by being 2 x 18v (36v), while still providing great runtime.
The 10Ah will still work in other 20v tools, but their power is more on par with a 1p 21700 based battery (like the 3Ah DCB230 pr 4Ah DCB240). They wouldn’t be my first choice for a grinder or recip, but will be great in something like a radio or light where runtime takes precedence over power.
All in all, seems solid. It’s a Cub Cadet SC with a brushless DC motor. I’m in the midwest so I haven’t been able to actually use the mower yet, but so far I think it’s an improvement over the gen I.
Stuart
I see pricing of $399 for the push mower and $548.89 for the self-propelled mower. That’s a $150 difference.
Changing my zip code or store doesn’t change the price. On every device and in every browser, signed in or not, the prices are $399 and $549.
You might have seen lower pricing during the holiday season, but what price do you see now?
Big Richard
I bought it for $499 ($459 with coupon) and it still shows $499 on my HD right now? I did see it at that $548.89 price last week for a few days. Odd.
Stuart
Maybe it’s regional, or some kind of balance to make the push mower seem more appealingly priced in certain areas? With no press materials, and Home Depot seemingly the exclusive retailer right now, there’s no indication as to what the eventual retail price might be. Or this could be one of those times where the price goes up and down so that the lower price can be emphasized as a “new low price” or special buy.
Big Richard
It’s gotta be the regional thing, based on supply chain likely. But $548.89 is a goofy price for a new item. I think once it is widely available $499 will be the standard. We shall see.
Champs
The size, weight, and agility I need is served strictly by rebadged Fisher Price toys, and considering the trends in cordless OPE, I may as well kill my small urban lawn.
Benjamen
Stuart is there anything else you’ve found that says what charger(s) are included. I found one spot on the HD page where they say they include 2 chargers, but they don’t say which chargers.
One of my many gripes in my review of the previous 2x20V mower was that it was kitted with only 1 slow charger and 2 batteries. Meaning you’d have to wait many hours, then remember to switch the batteries on the charger, and again wait hours before you could use the mower again.
If they don’t provide 2 fast chargers, with 10A batteries, it’s going to take all day before you can use the mower again so it wouldn’t be much of an improvement.
Stuart
From the “received free product” review photos, the mowers come with the DCB107 charger, which according to online user manuals say has a 1.25A charging rate.
A 10Ah battery should take ~8 hours to fully charge.
The DCB107 charger is the same as what is typically bundled with the 1.3Ah batteries included in Dewalt Atomic cordless power tool kits.
Big Richard
DCB107, compact/slow chargers rated at 1.25A out. With the 5000mAh cells being rated at lower discharge level, you also don’t want to charge them with too high of a current or you will stress the cells and impact their longevity. At least that is my guess why the included their lowest/slowest rated charger.
Most people don’t mow their lawn multiple times in a day, so I think you mow your lawn, throw them on the charger, and in a week when you are ready to mow again they will be ready.
Benjamen
“Most people don’t mow their lawn multiple times in a day”, that made me laugh.
But, what if you can’t finish your lawn on one charge. I have 9Ah FlexVolt batteries with the old mower and I barely finish my yard now (meaning sometimes I can and sometimes I’m a few rows short). I don’t have a big yard. I’m only mowing 1/8 or so of an acre. 10Ah batteries, probably aren’t going to do much better, especially with an increased cut diameter.
Big Richard
I did mean it it a light hearted manner, so I’m glad you laughed rather than taking offense.
And I see what you mean, but if these10Ah batteries aren’t enough to complete your lawn, would you really wait for them to charge, even on a fast charger, or would you throw on some other batteries just to finish those last few rows? I feel like anyone buying this mower is invested in the 20v system already, so they should have spares.
Supposedly this new mower is more efficient, with its auto-sensing capabilities, so on paper 10Ah is not much more than 9Ah, but I suspect it should be quite a bit of difference.
And while a larger blade means more air and grass resistance, you are making less passes so you can get more acreage done in a set time period vs. a smaller blade, theoretically.
If my lawn wasn’t under a foot of snow, I’d test both the 9Ah and 10Ah batteries in both the gen I and the new self propelled to compare runtimes, but that will have to wait until spring I’m afraid.
Nyall
Regarding testing, I’d be curious what happens when you mix/match batteries. I did this in the gen1 mower, I wanted to see which would last longer a 6ah XR battery vs a 6ah flexvolt. So I put one of each in and mowed.
The flexvolt gave out first, so I replaced it with a second flexvolt. The XR was nearly empty and only lasted a minute more.
SaturnFire
That’s my issue. I live on 2/3 Acre. at least 1/2 acre to mow. I even run out of gas sometimes when the grass is really thick and I am bagging it. Waiting for a Tesla Lawnmower 😛 hoping it arrives the same time my CyberTRuck arrives 😛
Mark J
I saw the mower with 2 batteries on the Home Depot website for 499.00. I made the purchase will arrive on 1/18/21.
I am in NJ.
Matt
For small engine OPE I’m sold…I’ve got the M18 hedge trimmer, blower, pole saw, edger and string trimmer. All are great (particularly the hedge trimmer which is a beast). But there’s nothing about electric lawnmowers that makes me not want my Honda. Maybe I’m missing something…if you’ve got just a tiny patch of yard to mow? Or you’ve been fighting a bad mower and want something simple and reliable? Or maybe I’ve just been spoiled by Honda.
Bob
I don’t have all the insider information but seems kind of odd that they didn’t just go 60V for the mower from the get go? It would complement the new 60V OPE power head/attachments.
I get the feeling the mower was rushed to market anyways. Didn’t they pull it from the display at one of the trade shows? Apparently no one wanted to listen to engineering……”It’s not ready, it doesn’t work right”. Bean counter replies, “Doesn’t matter you can fix it in version two” haha
I wonder if it’s a volume thing? They sell more 20V than 60V tools I would guess. Or it’s a distribution channel issue, Lowes doesn’t have Flexvolt for example.
I guess at the end of the day you could always put your 60V batteries in the 20v tool.
I’m not really interested in electric mowers until they come out with a robotic automated one that will do proper striping. The rumba type mowers that give a random pattern would drive me nuts.
JohnD
I need a robot mower that I can program in a pattern. Starry night on my lawn? take my money!
Doug N
I’ve been wondering what cells Dewalt and Metabo are using in their new 10 amp hr batteries, and I think I found it, in a discussion at budgetlightforum: https://budgetlightforum.com/node/75569
New Samsung 50S: not quite as powerful as the 3 and 4 amp hour cells, but pretty close. Maybe a 50T is next, to match the 40T performance but with extra runtime.
Regardless, 15ah Flexvolt and Milwaukee batteries are not far behind, I hope.
Big Richard
That sounds about right. I might take one of mine apart and see if I can verify. I know they had to pack some extra tech, mostly cooling I imagine, into these packs to be able to perform at the level they needed them. The pack is supposed to be good for ~1000W, compared to ~1500W of the 30T based 6Ah DCB206 and 40T based 8Ah DCB208.
I don’t foresee a 5Ah pack (Metabo has said they have no plans), but I do think a 15Ah FlexVolt is a strong possibility.
Plain grainy
What about buying a standard electric mower. Then mounting a Dewalt power station on it with 4 twelve amp hour battery s.? Run a hand file over blades to keep a steady sharp clean edge. ( unplug the mower first).rubber gloves & boots might be wise while operating.
Plain grainy
I’m just guessing. But I think a 12-13 Amp corded electric mower probably has a much higher blade speed. In contrast to the true dc battery version. So you may not get a lot more run time with the 4 battery power station. But you will have a more powerful mower. Just my guess! Might be an option for people that already have the Dewalt power station w/ Flexvolt battery’s, and a good life insurance policy for the 110volts ac.
Big Richard
I run my 12A electric dethatcher with the power station and 4 x 9Ah batteries, it works great but is definitely not “fuel efficient”. I got probably around 1/8 acre on a charge. It also only has a 14″ width, so my paths were pretty narrow.
Tom D
Does this really take two batteries and come with a single charger? So you have to remember to go swap batteries after one has charged or have only one battery the next time you mow?
Big Richard
It does take two batteries, but comes with two chargers.
Tom D
That’s better – wasn’t clear from the description.
I’d even be willing to permit a sequential charger.
Stuart
2 single-port 1.25A chargers.
MFC
I owned 3 of the previous 2x20v mowers. I used 9ah and 6ah flexvolt batteries in them.
I used it to mow about 1/4 of an acre every week and after 5 uses the first mower’s plastic drive wheel melted.
The second mower lasted 7 cuttings and then just stopped. No smoke, just died.
I sold the 3rd mower and bought a gas mower.
Let’s hope they upgraded all of the internal parts.
A W
I’ve been thinking this winter about “gateway” cordless tools, and this is an excellent example for those not already in DeWalt’s 18V line. What I mean is that once you buy into a good OPE 18V brand, it opens up a lot of bare tools that the user otherwise wouldn’t consider.
For example, I needed a tiny lawnmower for my wife to mow the garden paths with, and ended up with a Ryobi 13″ model that turned out to be useful.
I swore off Ryobi 5 years ago after a bad experience with a blue and yellow corded circular saw (it must have been one of their last ones). Between that and a Hitachi miter saw, I learned that cheap tools don’t save money when you add in the time it takes to try the tool, find out the hard way why it’s so cheap, return it, get the better tool, etc. Since then my power tool purchases have been almost exclusively DeWalt, Bosch, or Makita corded tools, and Milwaukee M18 cordless.
But the little Ryobi mower actually impressed me, and having a 4ah battery opened up some possibilities.
So when I needed a cordless router for a tree fort project I’ve been working on, I decided that – for me – the Ryobi 18V at $50 might be better than the Milwaukee tool for $150-200. And so I got a cordless router.
The router really imprssed me. I’m sure the Milwaukee is better, but the Ryobi meets my needs and seems very well designed.
So when I needed a pole saw, I also went with Ryobi.
And then I saw a great deal on a corded biscuit joiner for $50… and figured why not?
I have bought tools from Ryobi that I never would have considered had it not been for that dinky 13″ mower with a 4ah battery. It got me interested in their tools, and then impressed with the value, and then buying more Ryobi tools.
In a similar way, I think it’s wise for DeWalt to drop the 40ah battery and instead standardize to 18V and FlexVolt.
Nathan
while I’m intrigued I think I will wait abit for the flexvolt model. Or who knows maybe they will make a “flexvolt advantage” model. (minor joke there)
I didn’t know they started a 10AH 20V battery. Eitherway looks interesting.
As long as my gas mower continues to run – I will wait. but when it needs money thrown at it – I’m getting something different.
I was thinking about the EGO setup – but I’d prefer this if no other reason than because I have dewalt tools and batteries to go with. would like to see a cut test though.
Jared Reynolds
I really wish Milwaukee would come out with a lawn mower! I don’t understand what the hold up is!
Tom D
I suspect it’s runtime – Milwaukee seems to aim clearly at the “pro” market and a M18 lawnmower that doesn’t last a whole lawn would be disappointing for them.
But at this point I’d be happy with an MX Fuel – I just want that sweet sweet red (having a huge number of batteries and chargers has something to do with it!).
TMC
I don’t get the obsession with the larger OPE and cordless. The value prop isn’t there yet, it doesn’t make sense to be buying into these yet unless you have an unusual situation. If you got 2/3 of an acre, stick with gas. I paid $250 for a toro mower 17 years ago and have done little to nothing to it to keep it going. Sharpen the blade which cordless would need too and I changed the oil once. How many sets of batteries would I have gone through by now? At $300 a set I would rather just buy a new mower.
Battery tech/capacity is getting better but is the price per watt hour going down much??
I have a sizable investment in the DeWalt 20v tool department, and probably and a dozen batteries from 2ah to 6ah. This just doesn’t make sense. Same with the big Ego snow blower. I have the DeWalt leaf blower, it’s great for a quick job or clean off the walkway, but for fall leaf cleanup, the Husky is still coming out.
Big Richard
You explained it yourself “if you have 2/3 of an acre, stick with gas”.
83% of the US population lives in urban areas. How many of those urban lots are 2/3 acre or better? I live in a newer suburb where 1/4 acre lots are the norm. I would say 3 out of 4 in my neighborhood use cordless battery OPE exclusively. And the noise reduction alone is almost worth it. I’ve heard some HOAs actually have decibel limits, I’m sure those neighborhoods are 100% cordless/electric OPE.
Also you forgot about gas, how much have you paid for gas (and oil, spark plugs, filters, etc.) over those 17 years? Probably about the same as if you bought a new set of batteries.
Not saying cordless>gas, but it does make sense and I personally can see why the people have the “obsession”.
TMC
Regarding plugs, filters, oil, not much. I changed the oil once. Original plug, original air filter. It’s a $250 lawn mower not a Cadillac. I put stabil in my gas as soon as I buy it, and have never had any extensive maintenance issues. Maybe this is why I can’t relate to this hatred of gas OPE. The gas I’m sure is a fraction of the battery cost.
I know the cordless option is a fit for a small part of the market, but even living on a 1/4 acre like I do, I would still buy gas today. Especially given the supply of second hand stuff on offerup and letgo.
GEFF ************
I know the Product Designer who designed this. They (he/she) even said it’s a shitty product. I wouldn’t buy any products that are sold by SB&D if it was designed and or manufactured by MTD Products. MTD has nothing but CHEAP products.
I hate to keep MTD’s products on my store shelf. Total SHITT SHOW/Prods.
loup68
No one is saying it, but it looks like it has front wheel drive and that is definitely a very bad way to power a mower. My wife’s mother had a gas one and when the rear bag got a little full, you had to pick up the rear handle to put weight on the stupid front drive wheels to make it go. MTD and the research center should know better!
I worked in the original plant for 34 years.
Greg
We have all DeWalt tools and are happy with them but this mower is junk. Far too weak for our lawn. Anything but the highest wheel setting bogs it down. Two 10 amp batteries dont even cut 2000sq ft. I have mowed lawns for 50 years and this is by far the weakest mower I have ever used. Going back to gas.