Over at Amazon, they have the Dewalt DCD710S2 12V Max cordless drill/driver kit on sale for $69.
The DCD710 is a compact 3/8″ drill, with 189 UWO max power, 15 setting adjustable clutch, and 0-400/0-1500 RPM gearbox.
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To put things into context, the Craftsman 20V Max holiday season special buy drill, reviewed here, has a similar speed range, and 280 UWO max power output.
When I reviewed this Dewalt drill 8 years ago, the kit was priced at $159.
If you’re looking to buy into Dewalt’s 12V Max cordless power tool platform, or want an inexpensive and lightweight cordless drill to play sidekick to something that’s large, heavy, and overkill for lighter duty tasks, this is a great bargain.
One thing I really liked about this drill was its slim-grip ergonomics. The drill won’t win any “best of…” contests, but it’s a capable and comfortable model.
There are tons of recommendations I could make at $99+ price levels. But for under $70? This looks like a good choice for light to medium duty tasks on a budget.
The kit comes with a 12V Max charger, (2) Li-ion battery packs (1.3Ah or 1.5Ah), a removable belt hook, and carrying case.
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Update: This post was republished on 12/8/18, for today’s deal of the day.
jason gloekler
this is my go to drill for small projects or basic around the house stuff. Super light, easy to hold, and just right for that quick fix.
Paul
Are they ever going to upgrade or continue this line up. This my favorite work drill set all day.
Stuart
Only they can answer that. Maybe?
There will be a Craftsman V12 line (judging from how V20 chargers are labeled V12/V12), and I’d hope that maybe that’ll help things, but it’s uncertain.
NZ Tom
I really hope they keep the 12V line alive, and gradually upgrade it to brushless. I use the 12V screwdriver and impact a LOT, repairing other power tools for a living. DeWalt got it right using slide batteries rather than insert batteries like the other companies 12V ranges. It allows the tool handles to be slimmer: almost all insert batteries have fat handles, and also issues with where to locate heatsinks to handle high current draw. A heatsink in the candle does several things, but most important, it alerts the user that they are pushing a tool a bit hard.
KevinB
sweet deal, I really want one but will show some restraint , my bosch and milwaukee 12 volts lines are still going strong.
Stuart
Is that a challenge? There will be plenty of other impulse buys to tempt you with. =)
KevinB
never, I know better.You already got me with the Channel lock set : D
As far years past you got me too many times , couldnt even begin a list .
fred
For Dewalt Fans – ToolUp is offering $25 off on $100 or more – with code Dewalt25.
They saw some exclusions apply – and that eligible items are marked with a banner.
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Redcastle
DeWalt is supposed to be the premier brand of the SBD group and cheap tools with their logo and livery will over time lead to the whole brand being considered cheap.
SBD has a plethora of cheap brands to use when it wants to sell cheap tools including its new Craftsman label.
Unless they are just clearing out the 12v stock which given the many comments on here about the lack of development in this area may be the case I do not think this was a smart decision.
Stuart
This is the same tool that it’s always been. The same kit is priced $99 and $129 elsewhere.
Redcastle
Stuart
My comment related to its price not its capability.
At its normal price point it is above a number of other similar tools so can be viewed as premier, there is an old expression if you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas.
Black & Decker has effectively been destroyed at least in part by a never ending drive for sales which resulted in cheap tools sold cheaply and a perception that they were not any good.
Stuart
So you’re complaining that it’s on sale for too little money?
Redcastle
Stuart
I am saying that if you want to be considered a premier brand then act like it.
People have said in other posts that DeWalt are so cheap (18v) why would you bother buying anything else so the seeds of destruction are being sown again it is not like SBD has not got form for this.
As I said if they are just clearing old stock fine if they are going to consistently undercut themselves not fine.
fred
I’m not sure what SBD is thinking – maybe that consumers have short memories. But it seems easier to ruin a brand’s reputation than t is to build it back up. The certainly can’t fall back o using Porter Cable as their flagship – having forced t down market and making some production moves that have seemingly reduced quality of their once market leading tools like routers. As you point out the B&D brand is now synonymous with cheap tools – and they seem to have made some other strange downgrading moves like slapping their Bostitch name on odd hand tools – like clunky adjustable wrenches. It may all be in the name of boosting quarterly earnings – but I can’t imagine its a good long-term strategy. As a side note – I was always happy that I was never beholden to stockholders or Wall Street analysts. We did not run a billion dollar enterprise – but still made a decent profit that we were able to share with our employees and families.
Mike K
So a sale at Christmas means they aren’t a “premier” brand? Isn’t the goal for a premier brand to sell product? It’s a sale on a good tool. This the drill our shop uses in the warehouse and they beat the heck out of those and they just work.
Toolfreak
DeWalt isn’t a “premier” brand.
It might be one of the most popular brands for professional-level-yet-still-affordable power tools, but they stay far, far away from making DeWalt some high-end, no-discounts-ever brand for tool snobs.
SBD smartly makes high-end stuff with the latest tech for higher prices, and puts their older kits out there at lower prices.
This 12V kit is likely a great starter item for someone who wouldn’t even consider a drill set at $149 or even $129, and might be on the fence for $99 + tax.
At $69, they make the sale, the customer gets a quality drill, and DeWalt is hoping they make a LOT more money from them down the road when that person buys more 12V tools, batteries, and down the road, maybe even a bigger more expensive kit, more tools, more batteries, not to mention lots and lots of consumables and accessories with the DeWalt name on them.
It’s a VERY smart business decision for SBD to put stuff like this out there for these prices. And I say that as someone that doesn’t buy DeWalt power tools, though I do have and use quite a bit of their Black & Decker stuff when I don’t want to use my Bosch power tools.
rick
heh. Don’t get me wrong, I love the dewalt 12v. It has a better grip angle (for me) than the milwaukee 12v or the bosch 12v. (like a 1911 vs a glock and beretta).
That aside, the 12V line isnt very large at all- a screw gun, and an impact driver, a light, and… I think a few lasers and camera systems.
Its my favorite 12v screw gun. But its the one that stays in the shop, because theres nothing I have that can use that battery pack except for my heated jacket.
skfarmer
the deal is too good?
why aren’t they bitching about the hitachi grinder deal?
dewalt or sbd haters maybe?
The yeti
Hey i just clued in. SkFarmer. Saskatchewan Farmer. Rite on.
skfarmer
good guess. i like the canadians but i am not one of them. ndfarmer would be a better clue to my location.
ToolOfTheTrade
What a BEEP! How is a premier brand supposed to act? Never have a sale on anything and markup msrp on everything. Are you saying that in order to be considered a premier brand of tools by you’re standards, that you can never sell tools for a reasonable price or advertise sales promotions? You obviously don’t keep up with Dewalt tools, because they don’t sell power tools this cheap. Ever. If festool were selling their drill for this price would you no longer consider them to be a premier brand? The reason sbd has so many cheap brands is because of the sbd brass. Many of the brands that they own were better quality before sbd acquired them. And it’s obvious that the sbd brass doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to making decisions about keeping quality a traditional part of the majority of their brands. Whatever was good about a brand before, sbd brass decides gets rid of when they buy them. Black & decker aren’t cheap because of sales being driven down by demand. They’ve always been cheap. Long before they merged with Stanley. Although sbd has played a huge role in the demise of the brand’s quality. They’re almost to the point of being sold at the dollar store. That is undeniably a brand that sbd brass has made fubar. Anyway even if it’s new stock, what makes you think that Dewalt is undercutting themselves. This is a 12v drill. So it’s likely old stock. This is not their brushless 20v drill which is also currently available for a very reasonable price nor is it a hammer drill. And what exactly is considered to be a premier brand? Festool? Mafell? The most expensive brands should be considered premier. How many of their tools do you own redcastle? When have you ever seen their stuff advertised for sale during the holidays? Never. Let alone any time of the year.
Stuart
No personal attacks, please.
As for “old stock,” that’s uncertain. Retailers, even online ones like Amazon, don’t often clear out old stock for Black Friday. Brands don’t often sit on inventory for very long either. Black Friday often means volume sales, which means special arrangements and manufacturing runs.
There’s also a new deal on the drill and impact combo kit. https://toolguyd.com/dewalt-black-friday-2018-power-tool-deals-at-amazon-live-now/
Maybe it is old stock. But I’d be more willing to bet that it’s a special promo. Unfortunately, there’s no way to know the truth.
Little Queazy
If I may chime in to this week old post:
I bought the 12v impact/drill combo pack you posted, on Black Friday at the blue big box store for $89. They’re a nice little set, and though I’ve had some odd glances at work, everyone who wasn’t too much of a man to use the pair commented on the quality and comfort of them. They’re a great accompaniment to my 20v Dewalts. What they lack in muscle, they make up for ten fold in portability and excel at trim and finish work. Sometimes you just don’t need the power of a 20v. Tortoise and the hare. As far as them being old stock, they most definitely aren’t that. Dewalt dates their tools manufacturing on both the tool and battery. If you check the plastic where you slide the pack in, it’s laser etched clear as day. My set is dated 2018 31-49
So March or February of this year is when my 12v Impact was completed. It’s accompanying battery is etched 2018
19-47. You get the picture. Great little tools with Dewalt feel and quality.
Stuart
Thanks for the feedback! They are great tools, and in my opinion they should be more popular.
Redcastle
If you read my posts you will see that I believe SBD’s management having wrecked a number of well known brands is in the process of destroying DeWalt if you know the tale of the scorpion and the frog you will know why. I am not happy because I am so old I remember when Black & Decker was a real brand and my affection and respect for Stanley is well known.
Festool and the other real premier tool manufacturers have until very recently refused to deal with anyone they consider a discounter and when you do see their tools discounted it is for small amounts, to do what DeWalt are doing they would have to discount below Bosch and I mean Bosch green.
SBD is displaying the classic short term pump and dump strategy used when management incentives are skewed, the purchase of the Craftsman label makes much more sense in this context as it enables them to talk long and loud about reinventing the label, then there will be lots of sound and light about how much it is costing and how for now products will continue to be sourced abroad but they are trying, in the interim they will continue to suck up every cent they can by cutting prices and squeezing their suppliers, in less than two years they will be looking for another “acquisition” and if they do not find it then they will be in trouble. There is an old expression in corporate finance that the strong buy strength and the weak buy a story so if you buy an effectively bankrupt label from a company everyone expected to go bankrupt in the future what does that say about you.
I have bad news for you the premium tool companies which are all pretty much exclusively European or Japanese (cottage industry firms like Woodpecker do not count) consider the market in the USA to be so price driven you will not see their best products.
If you want to pay silly money for their latest tools that will not happen you can go play with the latest low priced tools sourced from China with a badge that says DeWalt or Milwaukee on it.
Ask Stuart why he has noticed that Bosch are no longer “competitive” they have the tools they are just no longer interested in selling a dollar for ninety cents.
I know it is unfair but you really need to reread what you write to say as you did that DeWalt never sell tools this cheap ever when the topic of discussion is a DeWalt tool is silly. I read your posts, admire your passion, sometimes feel sad when I realise you are destined to be disappointed (If there were millions more like you prepared to pay a premium to support domestic businesses then you might have a chance but there is not).
I am not a snowflake and never would rebuke a man for expressing his heartfelt views because at the end of the day it is those people not the people pleasers who get things done so providing you do not insult my children I am pretty much impervious to people disagreeing with me and any views I express.
Happy Thanksgiving.
JoeM
Uh… Sorry Redcastle, but, and I mean no disrespect… you’re utterly batty in the old bangers and mash on this one… (Meant for humour, notice the utter nonsense of the phrase, and total misuse of UK slang.)
This is just an incentive sale. Black Friday and Cyber Monday are crappy holiday season sale days, invented because some dumb statistician noticed that there was a day when shoppers were buying items at the same time retailers were clearing stock, and getting “Secret Deals” (at the time) because of that day. That idiot went on TV, shared that date as “The Friday following American Thanksgiving” and the following year, Retailers were faced with brawls and doors getting kicked in before they opened, just so consumers could get these “Secret Deals”… Well… After several injuries, retailers running out of stock, and several lawsuits… by January following that event, the name “Black Friday” was coined for the wild nonsense that went on due to the findings of an idiot statistician. A couple years later, a different study looked at a related shopping phenomenon, when most people begin turning to Online eCommerce sites for holiday shopping. And, coincidentally, it was the MONDAY following American Thanksgiving. In the spirit of the moniker “Black Friday”, they already had “Cyber Monday” lined up, and here we sit, surrounded by morons who need brass knuckles to buy last year’s flatscreen TV.
This drill IS a garbage drill, yes. This is my personal opinion, and does not reflect the sentiment of others. But the dropped price point has absolutely zero to do with the capabilities of the drill. Rather than clearing stock, they are using the “Drug Dealer” incentive, and the “Black Friday/Cyber Monday Effect” on consumers in order to get a DeWALT product into the hands of these shoppers.
If you want someone to blame, blame the News Media, who continually hype up these sales, and make retailers pay higher premiums to show their ads, flyers, and sales info during prime viewership hours.
I, PERSONALLY, would only buy this level of Drill as a toy for Nieces and Nephews to use as a motor to drive things they’ve built. The 12 Volt platform, I BELIEVE, is best suited to lighting, instrumentation, measurement, light fastening, and recreational sawing or pruning. This “Drill” is pretty much a slightly overpowered screwdriver.
But y’know what? If you drop it, like its siblings in the 20 Volt line, I doubt it will chip, dent, or shatter on impact. We know the 2Ah 12 Volt Batteries EXIST somewhere, so the runtime is probably reasonable. And, yeah, the small size is probably good for cramped quarters work. It isn’t a shining beacon of what DeWALT can do, but it does demonstrate how much quality they can pack into a “Value Sale” item.
They don’t WANT people to buy these. They want people to RECEIVE these, and having experienced it, UPGRADE to the bigger brother line. And when they see the 12 Volt Tech Tools, like the IR Thermometer, Inspection Cameras, and the pocket clip worklight… They’ll consider buying THOSE as well… because hey… The 12 Volt batteries came with the drill, so you’ve got plenty of backup for these other bigger tools.
There’s no value line in DeWALT. They have one or two seasonal Drills that are akin to the birdseed that Wyle E Coyote puts down at his most recent Roadrunner Trap. They’re ALWAYS there to make the rest of the line look tempting, and for people to go around to get them. That Retailers and the Media have been Hyping this idiotic “Black Friday/Cyber Monday” crap for so many years is just the unfortunate infringement that Retail Commerce has been making on the safety and sanctity of the public enjoying their Holidays.
Holidays Plural. Thanksgiving, Canadian back in October, and American in November, are getting drained of their meaning by retailers pushing Christmas down our throats BEFORE December 1st. How can we ENJOY our family and our meals, or teach the younger generation to have respect for traditions where they get to spend time with us, when WE are being told on every media station that we should be waiting in the freezing cold at a half-rate, no-good retail store that is selling Blu-Ray Players for $40 (Normally “$120” according to the ads, but really only $50 the rest of the year, and we fall for that trick every time.) instead of being with our families?
That was a lot of awkward run-on sentences, but they convey the total ridiculousness of what is going on, and just how painful this sense of urgency is to all of us. I mean, I was raised Jewish, and I absolutely HATE the Schmultzy Christmas Carols from everyone from Bing Crosby to Mariah Carey. And, before you say it, no, I’m not Anti-Christmas. I’m PRO Christmas, because I RESPECT what it means to huddle in the dark of the Winter Solstice, and be with FAMILY. I would never deny Christians that right, but I would like Christians to actually be ABLE to do that without it being co-opted by Retailers who are abusing time-honoured traditions to empty their wallets. I want Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanza, the Solstice, Saturnalia, and ALL the winter holidays to be respected. I think this Black Friday Schtick needs to end, and we need to return to a mutual respect for eachother during the season. Where Jews, Muslims, Christians, and Hindus alike can join with all the faiths, or lack there of, in a celebration of COMMUNITY, as all our Faiths preach. Instead we’re being exploited, all of us, and told to go BUY BUY BUY!!! And when do we get the time to truly INDULGE in our Traditions while we’re in a buying frenzy like that? Never. We can’t so much as carve a turkey, or a nice brisket, or even eat a SALAD without the news blaring “IT’S BLACK FRIDAY! LOOK AT ALL THESE DEALS YOU’RE MISSING OUT ON!!! LOOK AT THIS DeWALT DRILL FOR JUST $69!!! UP NEXT! FROSTY THE FREAKIN’ SNOWMAN AND THE GRINCH WHO STOLE CHRISTMAS!!!” It’s sickening!
In North America, Remembrance Day/Veteran’s Day is NOVEMBER 11TH. How soon did ANYONE’S radio stations start playing Christmas Music over that important day? That day for PATRIOTS, and for TRADITION… They get ONE DAY to learn the lessons of the past, that Evil CAN be fought back, that OUR Freedom comes at the cost of the Blood, Sweat, and Tears of HEROES that should be respected… Instead, what do we hear in the background? Taps? The Final Salute? No… On this day we should be THANKFUL for being saved by the bravest of the brave… we get… “…I’m Dreaming… Of a White… Christmas…” As if the Retailers and the Media are literally spitting on the graves of all the people who DIED for our traditions to be celebrated. The very REASON we have Communities to come home to… Instead, what are we doing? BUY BUY BUY!!! DADDY NEEDS A PS4 FOR $100!
…Well Happy Freakin’ Ho Ho to all, I hope you stayed at the table long enough to need a toothpick. That Dinner was a tradition far older than these Retailers have been around, and there are long-dead soldiers who go unremembered on THEIR day, just so we can have that $69 drill, or a PS4, or a piece of junk Flatscreen that was probably $200 cheaper three weeks earlier, and they just jacked the price to take you for a SUCKER.
This is an endemic problem we’re facing, and it’s FAR bigger than DeWALT’s $69 drill kit. It doesn’t cheapen the brand. America is too busy shaming itself with its sickening behaviour to worry about some bird feed tactic, hatched by insane sociopaths running the corporations, coked up so hard they’re speaking Dolphin.
*Still love ya, Redcastle… Just… Had to get that out of me…
Redcastle
JoeM
Unfortunately I have watched from close range how company management behaves (substantial part of my career spent in corporate restructuring) and the signs are writ large in this case with the purchase of the Craftsman label unless something dramatic happens they are going to wind up in financial trouble followed by some kind of asset reorganisation. I may be wrong but that feeling at the back of my neck and a recent conversation with a former senior executive at Black & Decker who lived through both the Stanley and DeWalt transactions says I am not.
With regards to commercialisation of celebrations I had over a hundred emails yesterday from UK retailers telling me about their Black Friday deals.
Despite some morons asking why the UK does not celebrate Thanksgiving without which the rationale for Black Friday does not exist, courtesy of Amazon all the “marketing muppets” who collectively could not have an original thought to save their lives jump on the bandwagon even the free ebooks site sent me an email about their ” sale” how do you have a sale on free stuff?
Always glad to hear differing views although in the final analysis given we both would like to see a strong domestic based production USA tool industry we only differ on details.
JoeM
Honestly, Redcastle? I’m kinda iffy. I have tons of training in business and the like, I’ve run my own, I’ve built them from the ground up for others, and watched others fail like sand falling through my fingers.
In TOTAL honesty… I am not sure how the wacky Marketing methods and organization at SBD has had them survive as long as they HAVE survived. So, somehow, despite the sense you’ve got going on, they’ve survived. All of MY experience says something should have snapped, and they should have crumbled, but somehow we’re BOTH wrong. And I don’t think it’s because we don’t know what we’re doing, I think SBD has something we can’t account for.
The Fanaticism of DeWALT. Despite mistake after mistake with abusing DeWALT technology, SBD and TTi can still both put forward some serious fight between DeWALT and Milwaukee. Somewhere in that level of high end construction tools, even when both brands only sell a chunk of what they expected to sell at any given goal, SBD still makes enough to hold out.
I’m a DeWALT guy, I am. I even got a T-Shirt from them once, just for posting a lot on their Facebook page. I am fully invested in the 20 Volt Max line, and there’s no saving me, because I’m invested in the 8 Volt Max line to accompany it. But no matter how much I scream (And I do) about the delays in rolling out the lineup, or how big a screwup a marketing tactic is… They keep going strong. It SHOULDN’T work. It has done some SERIOUS damage to sibling brands like Black & Decker, and Porter Cable.
If there are nails being put in SBD’s coffin, then someone hired the town doofus to do the hammering… Because that coffin is not getting finished any time soon, despite all the nails we can see on the ground around them.
As to the Black Friday thing… I’m sorry, but that just riles me up every year… it really gets to me, and I lose my temper at the utter disgrace we’re all witnessing on behalf of the Commercialism machine. Hey, Capitalism is fine, there’s ways to really make it work… but this rampant abuse of customers and common sense… the disregard for the North American reverence for Remembrance Day(Canada)/Veteran’s Day(USA)… At some point a regulation has to be begrudgingly put in place to give us all a little DIGNITY back.
…And… I’m sorry about my horrible UK humour, Redcastle… My own sick sense of humour didn’t mix well, and I genuinely hope I didn’t insult you… it was meant as a joke referring to our talk on another topic, about dialects and slang. My anger at the rest of the topic may have overwhelmed that… My anger really gets to me this time of year.
Redcastle
JoeM
With regard to some of your very heartfelt comments regarding the corruption of what should be important events the last time I was as angry as you seem to be was when I found out that the England rugby team had woven into their shirts an image of the Victoria Cross because some idiot thought it might inspire them – it did not work for the first time the host nation exited at the group stage.
Given that I am Irish and we have to put it mildly a complicated relationship with the British armed forces I was asked why I was so upset and I said that such an award (despite the efforts of politically correct weasels to claim it has not been awarded “fairly”) should never be used for any purpose other than that for which it was created and to do was a despicable act and to use the image in such a fashion was dishonourable to say the least.
Adam
I’m going to suggest the use of more commas & periods. Those sentences are way too long to enjoy them otherwise. (and I hated English class)
Redcastle
JoeM
You remember how upset everyone was getting with the management of Sears, it took a long time for Sears to get where it is today although the process accelerated under the current management team and I see the same thing with SBD.
The purchase of the Craftsman label represents an acceleration in their process.
They have more than enough some would say too many labels already many of which used to be loved and respected brands Stanley, Irwin, etc.
They had all the pieces in place entry level brands, sole trader brands and premium brands plus an iconic hand tool brand in Stanley (I feel much the same way about Stanley as you clearly do about DeWalt) and instead of building and developing DeWalt and Stanley they have turned into a dollar chasing three month horizon “corporation”.
Milwaukee is owned by a company from a culture where it is all different in terms of approach and ambition, not necessarily better or worse, just different however those differences do make Milwaukee better suited to a price war type environment.
SBD should be the national champion for the tool industry in the USA, it has all the tools (pardon the pun) to do the job however it seems like the management have put that in the too hard to do box.
Redcastle
JoeM
I just read a news headline which said there is website which tracks the number of people killed on Black Friday, as I have no wish to encourage these individuals I did not click the headline to get more information just thought another sad story.
skfarmer
i somewhat disagree with the above. black and decker was not a completely cheap line. if you look at the history. the complete b and d professional line was transformed into dewalt. overnight, the black b and d stuff received a yellow color swap. i still have several 4.5 inch angle grinders that differ only in color between the b and d and dewalt.
not long ago, i had the opportunity to pick up a 12 volt dewalt drill/ driver/recip saw/light kit in a pawn shop. it was a steal and like new but i already have every comparable tool in 20v max already. other than the saw every tool was not much smaller or lighter than it’s 20v max counterpart with a compact battery. i couldn’t figure out any real advantage so they stayed on the shelf. not because they were bad tools, i just couldn’t justify the overlap
Redcastle
Skfarmer
Black & Decker was at one time a world class manufacturer of innovative and well made tools among the stand out products was the Workmate it seems so simple now but when it came out it was genius.
Then the company became caught up in the corporate game the merger with Stanley took them both in the wrong direction and then they added DeWalt and others. I am genuinely saddened by this particularly the Stanley part.
The problem is that once you start playing the discount game it ends with everything including the view of your products being discounted. SBD has a whole bunch of brands to compete with those who sell on price including now sadly Black & Decker they could save Stanley for hand tools and DeWalt for power tools but no they will shred everything.
The European (particularly the German) and Japanese tool companies have the advantage of home markets who will pay for their products and not expect to see constant discounting, one German manufacturer has established a far eastern production facility to supply the USA and other price driven markets.
If I produce a product and price it properly it should not need to be discounted.
A few years ago kitchen suppliers here grossly over priced their kitchens and then offered instant discounts of up to 87% on those prices, I was told that this was so the purchasers could boast about how expensive the kitchen was using the pre discounted price.
Jon
I would really like you guys to pause this back and forth. Not because I am offended or anything like that. I find this extremely entertaining and I would like to setup a public video chat of all this while I am off work Christmas week. I can just imagine sitting and watching you guys go back and forth with a glass of bourbon in my hand.
Diamond Dave
I used to have this drill, matching impact driver and the 12v screwdriver. Loved the ergonomics of the Dewalt 12v lineup. Unfortunately Dewalt never really expanded on the lineup from years ago and I switched to the Milwaukee M12 lineup and am happy. I own probably a dozen of various M12 tools now. My biggest complaint with the Dewalt was the chuck loosening, especially with smaller drill bits ie 1/8” however I also experience similar issues with my Milwaukee M12 brushless Drill so…. Overall an great drill especially for DIYers and those wanting a smaller lighter drill. I would definitely recommend getting the impact and screwdriver (my fav) also and I have seen the 2 tool kit on sale this season.
Dang
Sheesh, a lot of “triggered” going on today, wasn’t expecting that haha. I think this would be for a homeowner who isn’t likely to invest in anymore tools, ie, a good christmas/housewarming gift.
Toolfreak
This would make an excellent housewarming gift for someone without any power tools, since it includes the drill, TWO batteries, a real full size charger, and a carrying bag for it all.
Of course, a set of drill and driving bits would complete the kit.
Corey
Dear Lord, the novels and ramblings born from the brief, “12v DeWalt great deal” is both funny and sad. Unwarranted is all I can say
glenn
Your comment is as correct as it is funny. And I think its hilarious!
JoeM
Stuart brought this ahead into December, but it was posted the week before Black Friday. The “Novels” you’re seeing are weeks old. They didn’t suddenly appear. I, for one, was in a rather bad mood in general, as this season does some nasty things to me for personal reasons. For one, I’m Jewish, and all but one of my Jewish family have passed away. So, this “Holiday Season” is very painful for me. This is TMI for most of you, but it is the reason I was so… Passionate… About my views of SBD when this thread FIRST posted.
Also… Honestly, this is a crappy version of the Max family drills. It’s better named as a screwdriver, in which case it excels above the majority of many other DEDICATED screwdrivers being released as stocking stuffers. The Dremel GO and the Bosch screwdriver it’s based on come to mind, as well as DeWALT’s own 7.2V NiCD family screwdriver. The Pre-8V Max hinging one, not the 8V Max Gyro. It gets kicked in the nards by this 12V Max DCD710 as a Screwdriver goes.
It’s a sale, but, I would still urge folks not to fall for it. By the time you tick off all the boxes of those who YOU think this would be a good gift for, you’re faced with this check box way up above all the rest that says “Is this person picky about the tools they prefer to own? If Yes, Avoid Buying them Tools.”
I’d buy something like this, or the Dremel GO, or many of the other cheap screwdriver/drill holiday packages as motors for not-normally-motorized toys. That’s the limit of the audience that truly benefit from these baby-of-the-family type rotational tools. I believe there is a better 12 Volt Max screwdriver, as well as mini-impact driver in that line. This particular model is really just a “Drill” for the sake of saying the 12 Volt Max line HAS a Drill. The truth is, weight and ergonomics of the Max family tools make the 20 Volt/XR/FlexVOLT family members significantly better as gifts for people who are seriously in NEED of tools. The 12 Volt Max members are better on the Instrument side, with Thermometers, Inspection Cameras, Wall Scanners, Lasers, Lights, Etc. The 12 Volt members are badass, they are, just, not without their bigger and smaller Max siblings to complete the job.
Juergen
Interesting thread. I am from Germany, and I own lots of tools. From Festool, Bosch, Hitachi, Makita, AEG,…. and also this 12 V Dewalt.
I bought it 7 years ago together with the impact. And I love it. Because it is so small and fits my hands perfectly.
To be honest, if I had to make the decision today between this one and a just a little bit more expensive one that is brushless but otherwise as light, then I would go for the brushless. But otherwise? Why?
This drill works for 80% of the holes I have to drill. It is powerfull enough. It does exactly what I expect it to do. So, a perfect tool. And the quality is very good.
Something else. Brand perceptions differ from market to market. Here in Germany Milwaukee and Dewalt have a hard time. Milwaukee is priced much higher than Bosch or Makita, but the quality is not better. And this is what professionals are interested in. And this is why you see so many Festool tools at sites. Or Bosch, Makita and Hilti.
Talking about Black and Decker. They are percieved here already since I can think as garbage. There is this rumor that they all have only the cheapest plastic bearings.
Anyway, this drill is definitely not bad, and not a beginners tool. Just a light handy drill.
rick
The price point of this is excellent. If you want to get someone a gift of a tool, and they have nothing else, this is very good. It will get almost all of your homeownerish who isnt very handy stuff done (hang picture frames, assemble furnature, install a coat hook, fix a few things here and there).
This is perfect for most apartment dewellers who have desk jobs. Who didn’t grow up in a family of contractors, nor have a house to maintain, or can “call somebody”.
Thats why those little “tool boxes” from HD and lowes for the holiday is so popular.
And because they are so handy,they are often nearby. Tighten a door knob, a hinge, etc.