Dewalt has come out with a new FlexVolt dust extractor vacuum, model DCV585. Thank you to everyone who wrote in with tips.
The new Dewalt FlexVolt 60V Max dust extractor vac is aimed at helping contractors meet OSHA Table 1 compliance for crystalline silica dust containment.
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The Dewalt DCV585 features Tstak tool box stacking compatibility, HEPA filtration efficiency, and can be used for wet or dry pickup.
- 125 CFM
- 2.0 gallon tank size
- 1-1/4″ x 8ft hose included
- Weighs 17.6 lbs
- Features on/off Wireless Tool Control with included remote
- Can be controlled by a Wireless Tool Control-enabled tool
- Automatic filter clearing
- HEPA filters included
- Noise level: LpA: 69.0 dBA, LwA: 81.5 dBA, K: 3.5 dBA
- Collection bag options: fleece, paper, plastic liner
The vac comes with a Dewalt DWV9000 Airlock adapter to match up with their Airlock connection dust collection tools and accessories.
The new Dewalt FlexVolt cordless dust extractor features Wireless Tool Control, which gives users the option to activate the vacuum from a few feet away, and a remote is included with the tool. There will also be Wireless Tool Control tools, which also activate the vacuum remotely.
Price: $349 for the bare tool (DCV585B), $549 for the kit (DCV585T2) which comes with (2) FlexVolt batteries and a charger.
ETA: Jan 2019
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First Thoughts
With the remote, which will probably be best located at the end of the hose or on the tool (fixed around a handle?), users can turn the vac on or off without having to reach for the built-in controls. While it’s still a manual control, my recent experiences with Festool have taught me that it’s an extremely convenient feature, even a must-have. It’s a nice touch and one that instantly elevates my sight-unseen impression of the new Dewalt FlexVolt vac.
But also, there will be tools that can automatically activate the vac. That’s a big plus, too.
I really like this way of going about things. You can buy new tools that feature the wireless trigger, but if not, the included wireless remote gives you far more flexible and convenient placement for a second manual switch.
Tstak form factor and connectability? YES! Hopefully a ToughSystem adapter is in the works.
The vac looks good on paper, and its features sound “just right.” This looks to be the Dewalt FlexVolt brushless wet/dry dust extractor vacuum that everyone has been waiting for.
jason gloekler
excited to see where Dewalt takes Flexvolt. Seems to be the best system out there to replace cords as well as hoses or gas in some cases.
Can say for sure, my 40v hedge trimmer is a beast and does everything I need it to, without smelling like gas.
Redcastle
Does it have wheels?
If it does reach the UK I dread to think how much it will cost if that is the price in the USA. DeWalt here at the moment is either feast or famine with a constant stream of cut prices deals and the rest of the range heading for Festool pricing levels.
The advantage of the T-stak format is that it will (just) fit through a standard UK door opening whereas the Toughsystem needs to enter sideways.
NZ Tom
I’m sure it will cost a fortune down here in New Zealand as well! Still, every contractor working with concrete and old paint need something compliant, and none of the compliant options are cheap. The cost gets passed to the customer, down the line.
I like that this is brushless. I repair a lot of dust extractors. Many fail because of brush issues: either brushes aren’t available, or they have been used too long on worn out brushes, and the commutator is damaged. Carbon dust also blocks the post-filter in many cases. Hopefully a mains adaptor is also included/available.
Todd
Standard door sizing country to country is something I never gave a passing thought to until now. Getting larger portable/stationary tools (miter saw, table saw, etc) must be a PITA. That is something that would absolutely effect my purchasing decisions if it was something I had to contend with.
I guess there is a bit of a silver lining to being fat Americans. That said, I’m still not interested in T-Stack as I’m heavily invested in Ridgid’s Pro boxes. Perhaps they will offer a small roller cart that clips onto the bottom?
125CFM is pretty impressive for a battery vacuum. Still a bit low to keep up with a table saw but as Stuart pointed out this is likely aimed towards OSHA’s silica dust requirements and would be great for a concrete saw or surface grinder.
Pat E
@ Todd
“Perhaps they will offer a small roller cart that clips onto the bottom?”
DeWalt states that the unit can be stacked and combined with other TSTAKs so it will likely attach to their DWST17889 wheeled cart.
fred
@ Redcastle
I recall us doing a kitchen makeover where the client wanted a big commercial range and a big commercial refrigerator. Her doorways were something like 27 to 29 inches wide – and she did not want them changed
We could not get her to visualize what the issue was and she was insistent. We opened up the outside wall to an attached garage – brought the appliances in then closed things up. We had her sign a disclaimer of responsibility of our part for serviceability of the installation. When all was said and done – she loved her new kitchen. We did lots of “display” kitchens for clients who seldom cooked – maybe this was one of those cases – so the range might last forever.
Evadman
The latches on that look to be in a weird position. How do you open it to dump it out without a gigantic mess if the hinge is in the middle of the storage drum?
mike
$350? Makes me feel better about recently spending $85 on the milwaukee cordless vacuum.
Jason
This is a dust extraction system. The specs appear to be much more robust than the cordless vacs. I guess we’ll have to wait and see if that’s the case.
Corey
Why would they make a tstack version before a tough system? Breaks my heart.
MCW
Yeah, I have been waiting for this a long time as I am already invested in the Flex Volt lineup. Do I keep waiting, using my huge Ridgid vac on small jobs, for the tough system? Could be years? It would be nice to have na ETA if ever.
Also, when will Dewalt release the 120VAC to 60V DC plugged battery adaptor? This and the compressor would be battery eaters.
Roger
Finally a cordless brushless modular vac. This makes sense for it to be TSTAK. I assume aiming at European market first to hype up. Then a TOUGH SYSTEM for US market next year or two. I’ll wait for a tough system type. Hopefully it’ll be a dual battery port unit. They could have made this a wheeled unit based on the DS450
Tim
Variable suction?
John S
Possibly the ugliest vac I’ve ever seen. Looks like a cheap tool box. Specs are very good though! Wireless remote is great.
chris
form before function, eh?
It ain’t a purse, bruh.
JoeM
…I WANT ONE!!!! This is EXACTLY what I want for my Dust Collection needs at home!!!
…In fact I saw this and tingled in a way unbecoming of a man… This is AWESOME!
Nate
I’m surprised with it being brushless this vac is not pulling over 150 cfm’s. But quite interesting nonetheless albeit a bit goofy looking.
Tim E.
The Milwaukee backpack vacuum, which is brushless, is only pulling 55 CFM. Probably with more water lift though. But it’s still a matter of balancing the runtime. They could put an even more powerful motor or more aggressive turbine, but the runtime would decrease in providing that extra power. I think they tried to balance it to get a CFM that lets you use it with a targeted set of tools, but maximize runtime otherwise.
Ben
Interesting, this might be exactly what I need for my CNC machine…
Stuart
Why not go with a corded solution?
ktash
I’ve never had a dust extraction system, only a shop vac. I use a cyclone with the shop vac. Is there any advantage to a dust extraction system if used with a cyclone, or would it cut down on the filtration? What other advantages?
John S
“Dust extraction system” is fancy marketing speak for shop vac. Festool is probably guilty of starting that.
I own two Fein Turbo II vacs, one 10 years old the other 6 years but different generation. You could call them shop vacs or you could call them dust extractors, doesn’t matter. One has a hepa filter the other a 1 micron filter, both have bags, both connected to some form of cyclonic bin separator. They perform the same tasks as all shop vacs and all “dust extractors”.
ktash
That was my impression JohnS. Of course some machines are going to be better than others, and if I was doing remodeling work in peoples houses, I’d get the pricey ones which are nice and portable with those small micron filters, because a cyclone wouldn’t be practical.
However, if I’m using a cyclone ahead of the filter, those small particles might still escape, it seems to me, because not much (visible anyway) goes thru the filter.
So my fairly large capacity Ridgid/Shop Vacs with clearvue/oneida cyclones are decent and much more economical. Plus the tools I use (miter saw is the biggest offender) make so much dust, what would be the point of investing so much money?
Maybe I need to get a meter to measure dust particles in the air. Maybe running a air cleaner/filter would do just as good a job and much cheaper. On the list of things to try. Since I’m a hobbyist, there’s less exposure anyway.
I also have a Rikon wall mount 4″ dust collector which is better for some things. It’s wall mount, but on a rolling stand. I got the Rikon because it had a smaller micron filter that came with it than similar machines.
Stuart
Cyclones can cut down on suction power, but so can particulates that might otherwise clog up a filter or filter bag.
As far as dust extractor vs shop vacuums go, dust extractors are designed for removing dust and chips at the source at the time they’re created. They can also be used for cleanup tasks. Shop vacuums are often used for general purpose and cleanup tasks, but with proper adapters they can be used as dust extractors.
Dust extractors often have HEPA filters. With shop vacuums, you often have to look at 3rd party accessories.
Dust extractors often have other features, such as variable suction power controls, and the ability to automatically activate when an attached corded power tool (of lowish amperage) is turned on and being used.
DFig
Cyclones do, in fact, come with a built-in pressure drop. Nature of the beast, like fluid dynamics n stuff bro. Better ones are not only more $$$, but less restrictive. The ol’ get watchya pay for conundrum. Long story time?
The source of fine dust particulate in my application is drilling holes in concrete. Here’s the kicker. Majority of the time it’s right alongside Mr. and Mrs. J. Public. A decade ago when I didn’t know any better a hundred dollar Ridgid filled many an establishment with epic dust clouds. The exhaust muffler/filter was a wasted twenty spot in the search for a proper solution. The countless micron filter and bag combos worked a treat. Eliminated the dirty exhaust and heaping chunks of net profit. Not to mention the overhead involved to maintain a semblance of efficiency. This kept the search alive.
Enter the dust deputy, stage left. The next evolutionary step came as a Hudson 100mil 7gallon bucket with an O’neida separator attached to its lid. Atop this sat another Hudson bucket of the 3.5gallon variety. That was capped by the very same Ridgid from ver0.1, minus the orange bucket, plus a hepa pleated and a one micron bag. O ya, and lots of silicone on the underside to complete the seal. This four foot contraption was wrapped in a plasticky tube for looks with insulation for sound deadening then strapped to a magliner for sweet mobility. Awkward, yet worked breddy gud.
The latest revision has had a 3-stage 14amp Ametek central vac motor swapped in to replace the ridgid upper. Now we’re talking!
I am tracking this dewalt, though. For those remote sites or locations where an abbreviated tool kit is more appropriate.
fred
Getting OSHA-compliant can be a big deal – and a PIA if your working up on staging, up on a roof or in tight spaces. The advantages achieved by going cordless with your tools might be cancelled out if you need to lug around a big corded dust extractor and hose.
So something like this compact Dewalt – assuming it performs well – can have an appeal
Brian A
I feel like Dewalt is listening to Milwaukee customer feedback more than Milwaukee is lol.
When Milwaukee updated their wet dry vac and it was released same quarter as Packout I was like why isn’t it Packout compatible.
Yoshivan
It’ll work with FlexVolt track saw right?? Or is this meant only for concrete dust extraction ?? Hope not.
I wonder how much and when it’ll be in Canada.!
Stuart
You might go through bags more frequently, and there might be some less-than-optimized aspects, but yes, it should work with woodworking tools like the FlexVolt track saw.
Pat E
Available for order in Canada now, $439 for the bare tool, $639-$650 for the kit.
xtsallad
This checks all of the boxes. My aws Makita cordless vac may get sold so I can get this. I hope the bottom has a way to inter-lock to Tstak for the dolly.
Stuart
Changelog 10/18/2018
I updated the ETA – the original information I was given was incorrect; the new FlexVolt dust extractor will start shipping in January 2019.
I also added a few more specs I was waiting on, including hose size and noise levels.
Altan
When this thingy is going to be Toughsystem compatible?!!!
Jared
Is this wearable dust extractor from Dewalt something new?
Model: DWH161B
https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/rotary-and-demolition-hammers/rotary-hammers/20v-max-brushless-universal-dust-extractor-tool-only/dwh161b
I came across it while shopping for a belt sander. I hadn’t heard of it before.
MCW
Too bad DeWalt doesn’t have a 110AC to 60V DC adapter. I’m invested in their FlexVolt system, love it, but certain items should still have a plug. I realized this after using my 60V compressor. I wearing though my batteries charging them. I’ve been waiting for this vac to be developed and am now hesitant to spend this much on it and wear out my batteries too. Makita’s 2×18 goes both ways.
My investment in FlexVolt was under the assumption they already had an adaptor battery shaped box that plugs in. Then I realized it was only for their 120V 2 battery chop saw. A one tool only adapter. Too bad. I now have a boat load of FlexVolt tools.
Still waiting. Perhaps I’ll go to my 3rd battery platform and buy Makita.
Big Richard
Try Metabo HPT MultiVolt otherwise. Lineup isn’t nearly as deep, but any MultiVolt tool can use the 36v MultiVolt batteries or AC adapter. And they’re some good tools. I think their reciprocating saw is better the than the M18 Fuel Super Sawzall, and that’s quite a feat.
Big Richard
It’s newish, I think it’s been out around a year. But it is designed for use with SDS rotary hammers, it’s not something you would use with a miter saw, tables saw, or anything like that. It only has a 210 cubic cm bin, which is like 7oz.
Patrick
Designed for SDS & hammer drill but DeWalt also promotes it as being optimized for tools such as drywall cutout tools, sanders, routers, jigsaws etc – small, dust creating tools and not large saws as you mention. Unfortunately it’s not compatible out of box with DeWalt’s Quick Connector (DWV9000) and they don’t list compatible adapters. They need to come up with connection options or revise their marketing material to remove other tools from the equation.
That said, at World of Concrete 2019 where it was introduced, the Product Manager responsible stated there would be an ecosystem of tools surrounding this wearable extractor but none have materialized as of yet – AFAIK.
Big Richard
You are right, certain small tools it works with, I love it with the random orbital sander.
And it is compatible with their DWV9000 connector. You just have to remove the shroud on the end of the hose. Vacuum hoses are corrugated and act as threads. They usually put a little glue on the end, but with a good twist it will thread off, and then you thread on the DWV9000. Works great.
Patrick
Big Richard,
Thanks for the information. DeWalt’s literature states that the hose is not compatible with AirLock connectors and there’s no mention or diagram showing the removal of the end piece and attaching of the DWV9000 so I gave up and used the hose from the DCV581H vacuum (the manual of which actually shows this and threading direction). I wish DeWalt were more consistent!
Thanks again for the update! Much appreciated!
MCW
Thanks. Just looked up[ some reviews of the new Metabo HPT lineup. The old Hatchi. Looks like a pretty impressive tool line up. If I was already invested in Hatchi, Ild definitely give it more consideration. Really like their adaptor. It just bugs me that of all the names they could have chosen, why something so confusing?