Dewalt has officially announced their new ATOMIC Compact Series cordless power tool lineup, adding to the 200+ tools in their 20V Max cordless system.
Also be sure to check out our Dewalt Atomic cordless power tools first-look, which discusses the new drill and impact in more detail.
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Dewalt says that the new Atomic series compact cordless power tools combine performance and durability in a compact format. It is optimized for tight spaces, overhead work, and for long periods of use. The tools are optimized for overhead work and long periods of use.
They’re aiming the new 20V Max Atomic cordless power tools at general contractors, remodelers, electricians, mechanical and HVAC tradespeople, plumbers, and cabinetry and furniture builders. In other words, all of the types of users who are typically interested in Dewalt cordless power tools and accessories.
The Dewalt Atomic product family will include the following tools:
- Drill/driver (DCD708)
- DCD708C2 2-battery kit, $159
- DCD708B bare tool, $119
- Impact driver (DCD809)
- DCD809C2 2-battery kit, $159
- DCD809B bare tool, $119
- Hammer drill/driver (DCD709)
- DCD709C2 2-battery kit, $179
- DCD709B bare tool, $129
- Circular Saw (DCS571)
- DCS571P1 1-battery kit, $269
- DCS571B bare tool, $149
- Oscillating multi-tool (DCS354)
- DCS354B bare tool, $129
- Reciprocating saw (DCS369)
- Price TBD
What’s interesting – and potentially concerning – is that the drills and impact driver are bundled with 1.3Ah batteries, their lowest-capacity compact packs.
ALL of the Dewalt Atomic cordless power tools will feature brushless motors.
The Atomic drill/driver is said to have up to 13% more power and be 25% more compact than the DCD771, their entry-level model that launched in 2013. The impact driver is said to have up to 21% more torque than the DCF885, which launched in 2011.
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There is new information about the new Atomic series saws and multi-tool, although no imagery has been provided yet.
See Also: Makita Sub-Compact Cordless Drill and Impact Driver Combo
Dewalt Atomic Hammer Drill
The new compact cordless Atomic hammer drill/driver is similarly spec’ed as the new drill/driver, featuring 340 UWO max power, 0-1650 RPM, and 0-28,050 BPM for masonry drilling applications.
Read More About the Dewalt Atomic Series Cordless Drill and Impact Driver
Dewalt Atomic Circular Saw
The 20V MAX* Compact Circular Saw has the power and depth-of-cut to complete 2×4 dimensional lumber at 90 degrees. With its extended reach, the rear-handle-design is maximized to rip sheet goods such as 3/4-inch OSB (oriented strand board). The circular saw also features a removable auxiliary handle, onboard dust port, electronic blade brake, and onboard blade key storage.
Okay, so the new Dewalt Atomic series compact circular saw can cut 2×4 or other 2x lumber, presumably in a single pass. It obviously has a reduced blade size, perhaps 5-3/8″, and a rear handle that’s optimized for long rip cuts in sheet goods. The auxiliary handle is removable (why?). An on-board dust port is a plus, as is the electronic blade brake.
In kit format, the Atomic circular saw will be bundled with a 5.0Ah battery.
Dewalt Atomic Oscillating Multi-Tool
The 20V MAX* Compact Oscillating Multi-Tool includes a Quick-Change™ accessory blade holder, bright LED work light, and ergonomic Dual-Grip™ variable speed trigger.
How will the new oscillating multi-tool differ from the current model, DCS355? I’m curious – was the need for a new compact model inspired by sales performance of the single battery Black Friday 2018 kits?
Dewalt Atomic Reciprocating Saw
The Reciprocating Saw also includes a bright LED work light, Quick-Change™ blade holder, an ergonomic variable speed trigger, and a pivoting shoe for cutting performance.
From the sillouette, the new Dewalt Atomic reciprocating saw resembles the Milwaukee Hackzall, or perhaps a fixed-angle version of the Dewalt 12V Max pivoting reciprocating saw.
Dewalt Atomic Series Compact Cordless Power Tool Launch ETAs
Spring 2019
Drill/driver (DCD708)
Impact driver (DCD809)
Buy Now: Drill Kit | Bare Tool via Home Depot
Compare: Dewalt Premium Brushless Drill via Amazon
Buy Now: Impact Kit | Bare Tool via Home Depot
Compare: Dewalt Premium Brushless Impact via Amazon
Buy Now: Drill and Impact Driver Combo Kit via Home Depot
Compare: Dewalt Premium Combo Kit via Amazon
Compare: Makita 18V Sub-Compact Drill and Impact Combo Kit via Amazon
Fall 2019
Hammer drill/driver (DCD709)
Circular Saw (DCS571)
Oscillating multi-tool (DCS354)
Early 2020
Reciprocating saw (DCS369)
More Thoughts
Dewalt’s positioning and marketing for the tools seems a little unclear. Compact? Yes, they are. Brushless motors? That’s appealing. 1.3Ah batteries for the drills and impact kits, while the circular saw is bundled with a 5.0Ah battery?
How will the oscillating multi-tool compare with the current Dewalt 20V Max model, or will it be replacing it?
The new circular saw and reciprocating saw look to be uniquely featured, or at least complementary to existing Dewalt 20V Max models.
Has their been demand for a more compact long rear-handle circular saw from Dewalt? I know that the compact recipricating saw will be in demand. But have users looked at Dewalt’s 6-1/2″ circular saws and said “that’s too big, I want something smaller?” And if it does not feature a smaller blade size, that rear handle is going to contradict the compact theme of the entire series. Thus, while it’s a presumption that the new Atomic compact series will feature a smaller blade size (Dewalt did not specify the blade size in press materials), I think it’s a reasonable one.
Traditionally, more compact circular saws have been in the realm of DIY cordless power tool platforms, such as Craftsman and Ryobi, pro tool brands’ 12V-class cordless lineups, or specialty models such as the Mafell KSS 300 cross-cutting system.
Before I allow myself to get excited (or critical) over the new Dewalt Atomic cordless power tools, I want to see what they can do.
I also have to ask a question I know readers will ask – why is Dewalt announcing these tools so far in advance? When they announced their new cordless woodworking tools, most of the tools were a few months away, with only the router having the longest lead time. Even so, those products were all featured in a cordless woodworking tools family photo. The Dewalt 20V Max Atomic hammer drill, circular saw, and oscillating multi-tool are 6-9 months away with a Fall 2019, and the reciprocating saw can be as long as a year away, with an “early 2020” ETA.
This is an unusual announcement for Dewalt. Quite frankly, it’s welcome, as I’d rather know as much as possible than less. I can’t wait to learn more! But on the other hand, there will be so many questions, my own and readers’.
That all said, based on the limited information available, are you excited about any of the new Dewalt Atomic Compact Series cordless power tools? Unfortunately, we know the least about the tools I’m most interested in – the circular saw, oscillating multi-tool, and reciprocating saw.
Lastly, there have been questions and some rumors that Dewalt is revitalizing their 12V Max cordless power tool lineup.
V12 branding on the new Craftsman charger very strongly suggests that Stanley Black & Decker is working on new 12V-class compact power tools for that brand. There are some images online of a new Dewalt 12V max brushless compact cordless drill, an impact driver, and a battery. While unverified, it would be efficient for Dewalt to develop both brands’ 12V-class cordless power tools at the same time.
As for my point – IF Dewalt is coming out with new 12V Max cordless power tools, including brushless tools, why not give that lineup Atomic branding? They still could, using Atomic as a cross-battery-size branding to indicate “compact power,” in the same way that Milwaukee’s FUEL branding can apply to both M12 and M18 cordless power tools.
So, that’s where my thinking is at. Either the Dewalt Atomic launch announcement is meant to precede a competitor product launch or announcement of some kind, or to start creating buzz that will grow and set the stage for big 12V Max product announcements. OR, it could just be a vague teaser meant to give us a light taste of what’s to come, but that seems like the least likely possibility.
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Adam
After watching the YT video on the DeWalt Atomic vs Milwaukee compact, I’m not sure why DeWalt wasted anytime on this venture. They seem underpowered for what your paying for
Casey Junod
How does this compare, potentially anyways, to Makita’s sub-compact 18v line-up?
Will
I think they are trying to go after Milwaukee’s 12v platform. People would love the need for just one battery,but don’t always need the full-size models power.
Aaron
Zzzzzzz….what’s the point?
And these 1.3 batteries SUCK. No battery gauge! Stick with Makita!
VCG Construction
We picked up the Atomic combo kit, it actually came with (2) 1.5 ah batteries. Not much better but something
ChrisP
Vince, I think your review of the atomic impact driver is spot on. What is the point of it? Not small enough to offer any advantage over regular 18v
Shane eggleston
My 18 volt makita impact died after 8 months maybe it was made on Monday or Friday I switched back to dewalt
Jehremy
How do these stack up to Makita’s Subcompact lineup?
JoeM
I think the Circular Saw has the detachable handle so it can compete with Bosch and Dremel’s SawMax/UltraSaw small blade system.
https://www.dremel.com/en_US/tools/-/subcategory/tool/find-by-category/27360/saws
And… That Oscillating Tool has a nearly identical silhouette to the 355, and I would say the only difference is he oscillating arbour is a little farther into the length of the tool. Otherwise it’s identical. So, unless they show them side-by-side, and it is more slender, and shorter, I don’t know if the new tool is worth it.
Stuart
The silhouette might just be a placeholder. I would caution again drawing any conclusions based on it.
JoeM
Didn’t I say that? Am I having a Canadian dialect issue again? …Okay, I was going for LITERALLY “Unless they show them side-by-side” and “I DON’T KNOW if the tool is worth it.’
Did that not come through? Do I need to rephrase it? Dunce Hat and a Time Out for me? I’m sorry if I wrote it wrong, Stuart. Honest, sometimes I get a little lazy with the phrasing.
Stuart
Don’t beat yourself up about it.
Remember, in my responses, I aim to provide information to everyone. Regardless of what you might have meant, or think, it gave me an opportunity to caution that the silhouettes shouldn’t be analyzed too closely.
Nathan
is this intended to replace the bottom tier of brushed tools?
I’m not so sure I see the point other than to have a even more or cheaper set of tools on the same battery platform.
Is this maybe to be able to point to the craftsman brushless stuff and say – here’s the same tool with 2 years more warranty?
Now the circular saw looks to be that hobbyist 4 inch variety.
Eric
I don’t see Dewalt preceding any competitors launch here. Milwaukee and Makita have been killing Dewalt on the compact side for years. To me this screams desperation. Hoping their users won’t migrate over to one of their competitors if they know Dewalt is coming out with more compact stuff in the future. And hopefully the rest of their new line is better than the atomic impact driver. The cheaper M18 brushless impact blew the Dewalt away in the video Adam talked about on Youtube.
Chris
Have you seen the brushless 12v Max tools? I saw a picture on Instagram from PTR. ?
Not-Stuart
*cough* http://forum.toolsinaction.com/topic/14595-new-12v-tools-108v-europe-hitting-the-market/ *cough*
Altan
Thanks,
The compact battery 3Ah looks the same size as 2Ah, to fit their lasers I think. So that means that they will not make the 12V 4Ah battery.
Chris
Good find man!
NZ Tom
Super buzzed about these. I try not to be a DeWalt fanboy, but I use the 12v screwdriver all day long as a technician, it works really well. I also use the M12 soldering iron at least 5x a day, and I hate the fat handle in comparison! I find the brushed 12v impact a little gutless for what I do, and have been eyeing up the M12 stubbies. Stoked to learn a DeWalt 12v brushless impact and 3/8” wrench are in the works. Hopefully we get them here in NZ, but I’ll buy from Europe if I need to.
Louie Orama
A few months ago on this site, there was a topic of what DeWalt should come out with. My main concern was a Brushless Trim Saw. When I began buying tools about 5 years ago, I picked up the whole set of Craftsman Bolt On tools which were 14 attachments. Since then, I have gone DeWalt crazy even having about 70% of the FlexVolt lineup. The only attachment I use on my Craftsman Bolt On lineup is the 3-3/8 trim saw. But it has no light, no depth adjustment, not Brushless and no vacuum port. I am really excited about the DCS571 and cannot wait to get my hands on it. Even bought the Kobalt one which is 4 inches, but had to buy a few batteries and a charger which is investing into a totally new platform. But-I have read that their (Kobalt) Oscillating Tool is fantastic, so perhaps I’ll pick that up as well. Love my DCS355 and wonder what the difference would be with the 354 Atomic Oscillating Tool.
Altan
They should make the tools they have not made not playing around!
Cordless Biscuit Joiner 20V
Cordless Heat Gun 20V/60V
Cordless Rebar Cutter 20V/60V
Cordless Rebar Tier 20V
Cordless Soldering Tool 20V/60V
Cordless Compact Atomic Bench Grinder 3″ Blade 20V
Cordless Rotary Tool 8V
A fast charger which accepts all batteries 8V/12V/20V/60V
Cordless Hand Held Tile Saw 12V
Cordless Tile Cutter 20V/60V (They have it already with Craftsman and Porter Cable, why not DeWALT?!)
Cordless Chainsaw Lopper 20V ( Black & Decker and Craftsman have that tool)
Cordless Belt Sander 20V
Cordless Jigsaw 60V
From this new seri just the circular saw looks interesting to me and multi tool if it has variable speed option.
Could you please send me the links for new 12V tools?
Jim Premo
I agree. This effort does not address the cordless tools that their existing professional user base needs or wants.
ktash
Stuart, Lowe’s has a whole bunch of Dewalt tools at very big discounts, like their $549 sliding miter down to $349. All of them look like great bargains. Thought I’d let you know.
Mike
They have a rebar cutter, you don’t need a 60v jigsaw you didn’t really need a brushless one for that matter,they have a cordless rotary tool 20v, they’re probably coming out with the tile saw but making it a little better than the porter cable/craftsmen, Dewalt doesn’t put out tools just for the sake of putting them out like Milwaukee who losses a lot of money on tools that didn’t sell and sit on the shelves till they’re discounted so low they make nothing on them, and if Home Depot decided to dump Milwaukee and told them to get their shit out and Lowe’s and Manards didn’t want Milwaukee they would go bankrupt
Altan
Where is that rebar cutter?! They had 36V jigsaw before, so that means a powerful jigsaw can be made, rotary tool similar to Dremel and Bosch one which is light to hold with one hand. They can make better tools for DeWALT than Craftsman or Porter Cable but they should hurry up as I am getting fed up, they are too slow compared to Makita or Milwaukee and even Metabo, do you work for DeWALT?!
I like DeWALT tools the most in general, but I am very shameless to criticised my loved ones, I don’t want to make myself dependent on something because of too much love. This is not going to allow the tool industry to grow, we are here to ask for our needs because we pay money for their tools, not to protect a brand. If somebody has different opinion please share. I don’t treat the guys who write in this blog the same way I treat the brands, we are sharing some information here to learn more, this is a completely different thing, but about the brands I don’t have a specific emotion.
Cr8on
I’m at least mildly interested in the circ saw….
Sergey
Would be good to see this (smaller) circular saw. If they could beat Milwaukee/Makita saws, I’d be throwing away my Makita XSS03Z and buying Dewalt. Makita 5-3/8 saws are surprisingly good and for me it’s the only reason to keep Makita system.
david burke
Man… Dewalt is so lame! “atomic” = small and cheap ? Why am I allowing myself to be disappointed in Dewalt?
Maikeru
I’m glad that they came out with a compact model of driver-drill/drill-driver around the size of Makita’s LXT series as it does help quite a bit with getting into more cramped spaces and with the control of the tool. That said one thing that I can’t tell from the images is how far forward the trigger is—if it’s too far forwards like the full-sized drills it’s awkward to use for those who have slightly shorter fingers/smaller hands (which is slightly annoying for DIY folks, but is injury inducing if you work in a shop and use it for 4+ hours a day).
Also, sure that 1.3 Ah battery (though their website states that the battery is a 1.5 Ah one) is going to be light, but it’s also going to force you to go back to the charger way too frequently. Also, if they’re the same 1.3 Ah batteries that I’ve seen then they lack a gauge (likely due to a lack of space to actually place the lights and button) and that’s also problematic.
I think that the early announcement of this product could be the reason for the battery size. I mean they’re making a drill that’s going to compete with Makita’s brushless LXT line as well as Hitachi and giving it a ridiculously small battery if they’re actually aiming it at professionals. Looking at the price point of most of the packages for Makita’s LXT line suggests that DeWalt is trying to keep the pricepoint in the same range, but they’re either having a hard time because they’ve announced it really early (they haven’t gotten production on the units cheap enough yet) or they’re trying to game the system in regards to tool stats. The two 1.3 Ah in a kit versus the common single 3.0 Ah in Makita’s kits would probably do roughly the same amount of work, but would likely make the total weight of the tool and battery lighter. This might actually make the tool more so aimed at the DIY-er doing some light work that may not fully run down that rather small battery (I can honestly tell you that a new 3.0 Ah battery can easily help assemble 6 large-ish pieces of flat-pack furniture, safety anchor them to the dry wall, put hanging mounts on a few pictures, and still have enough power, so for most DIY-ers half that amount might not a deal-breaker—I just wouldn’t expect something like that to be used by a professional who would prefer not to be interrupted by a battery swap in the middle of working).
Corey
Would be a good marketing misdirection to announce these mediocre new subcompact tools, way in advance, as 20v, just to reveal closer to launch that the eerily similar 12v leaks are actually the same line, same specs, but in reality the relaunch of 12v max. Something I’d do lol A guy can hope, right? Other than that, I see this as a clear Makita subs imitation/hat throw. I own a handful of those makitas, and they’re impressive on paper with the top tier stuff out, but dammit they work and feel great for what they’re intended for. I may come around to the idea of a sub compact DeWalt yet.
Corey
Makita subs are*not impressive, on paper… Phones getting to slow to keep up typing. May be time for a new one of these, as well
Matt J
I initially was a bit defensive of DeWalt on these as I thought they could be positioning them as a 12V replacement. Now, where it seems there is new 12V stuff on the horizon, and after seeing a video of the impact side by side with the current full size 20V models, I really really don’t get the point of this. It’s barely more compact than the 887 and 787, and it performs worse. I think the 1.3 Ah battery was a decision made solely to make the tool appear smaller next to a full size tool with a 5 Ah on it.
Maybe the drill will be better/significantly smaller than other models they’ve released. I always thought a “subcompact” impact was kind of an unnecessary tool because all of the higher end impacts are pretty compact to begin with. The range of spaces that I could not reach with a regular impact but could get to with a subcompact tool is what, maybe a half inch of space? Less perhaps? Most of the time, if I have a really tight space I’d probably reach for a flexiclick or a dedicated right angle drill/impact before reaching for something like the Atomic impact anyway.
The drill to me makes a little more sense as you could have your big bulky powerful hammer drill when needed and then have the subcompact for tight spaces and precision work.
Stuart
The decision to use a compact battery pack is a reasonable one. But why 1.3Ah instead of 1.5Ah or 2.0Ah? Or even 3.0Ah as was bundled in some promo kits last year? It’s a cost-cutting measure, and that can be reasonable, but it doesn’t agree with the actual kit pricing.
Matt J
With you 100%. They probably could have gotten away with 2.0 Ah, but I think this decision was made more for marketing optics than for making a good kit. The 1.3 Ah just makes the tools (and particularly the impact) look substantially smaller than their full size counterparts when they’re really very nearly the same size.
Also I just don’t get the point of a “compact” 20V impact driver when it’s not as if the “full size” models were unwieldy and the only dimension that’s really been sized down is the length of the top of the tool from back to collet. If they had switched to a stem style pack that shrunk the height of the tool, I guess I could understand it. The drill makes a little more sense to me (but a 12V drill seems like a cheaper, equally capable option for what these tools are positioned to achieve), but the impact just seems like a “solution” in search of a problem.
ToolGuyDan
> An on-board dust is a plus
I think you “accidentally a word” here.
> Removable handle
As they said, optimized for tight spaces. Does it need to be removable? Probably not. But for the cost of making it in two pieces and putting in some connecting hardware, I do like having the option.
> Atomic
As I said in the original thread, “atomic” here means “nothing of essence left out, nothing frivolous included”. It doesn’t mean nuclear-powered. Calm down.
Stuart
Thanks! *fixed*
Who thinks these are nuclear powered?
I disagree, I think they’re going for the “small and packed with power” definition/interpretation.
Toolfreak
I think they should be nuclear powered if they are big and “Atomic”.
It makes NO sense to have BIG tools that are named “Atomic”, unless they’re nuclear powered.
It’d make sense to have SMALL, compact tools that are named “Atomic”, because atoms are small.
Then again, maybe these are designed to blow up…
Joe framer
.As a DeWalt user for framing.. No pro will be excited about less powerful atomic tools… Why do you keep writing that they are compact, Stu,?
If your just rewriting what Dewalt wrote , ok.. but they are Not compact.. the impact is actually wider and taller and heavier. With only a
3/16 ? difference in length.. ( YT has videos showing this)..
… I’m sure some marketing guy thought this was great to confuse DIY buyers, but pros want real upgraded tools(791,877) .
Dewalt (SBD) has lost their way. Milwaukee sales are up because they bundle HO tools with the appropriate batteries ( 12ah or at least 9ah) the whole line of batteries are much cheaper then dewalt.
.By doing this type of marketing,they make the 20v max brand look cheap. Like Alton says above, just make new tools for the 20v line and upgrade some of the older 20v tools.
Make a cordless 10″ table saw and mitre saw. Reinvent the 12v line ( looks like it is).
Forget the HF gimmick and names. Make quality , Professional level tools and cut prices on batteries.
Stuart
Dewalt’s calls it the Atomic Compact Series. As long as it’s accurate, which it is, I see no reason to contradict it.
Length-wise, which is the dimension most often referred to when talking about a drill or impact driver’s compactness, the are shorter than Dewalt’s other models. Thus, describing them as compact is accurate and fitting. It also helps with context. The regular Dewalt brushless drills are also often described as being compact, in contrast to the “premium” designation of the 3-speed drill.
Matt J
I was curious given that my earlier thought on this was that “regular” impacts don’t seem very long, and while the Atomic appears to be marginally smaller, there seem to be very few jobs where it would fit and its larger siblings would not.
So I looked up the Makita black subcompact impact, which is pretty highly regarded. It’s 5-5/16″ long.
Then I looked up the more powerful, standard brushless turquoise Makita impact, and it’s 4-5/8″ long.
So the standard tool is nearly 3/4″ shorter than the subcompact tool? Color me confused.
Granted, the motor housing on the Makita has a lower profile, but at least DeWalt’s compact offering is smaller than their standard impacts.
Corey
My only complaint with my subcompact impact is that while it’s much shorter and thinner, it almost impossible to notice if it’s a mm shorter than my 887. Lighter, yes, but not actually compact in the most important dimension.
Big Richard
Volkswagen has to sell a lot of Jettas to make a few Lamborghinis. I get it, we pros want pro tools, doesn’t mean a brand can’t sell a lesser grade to bring in some dollars for R&D purposes. Like it or not, all those DCD771s sold over the years have led to innovation like Flexvolt. And while I would not buy the drill or impact to replace my DCD996/791 or DCF887, if/when the price comes down I would buy them as a nice little kit to keep in the camper or car or somewhere similar. It is still a quality brand that stands behind their product, so while this is not top of the line, its a good product for the average user, who out number pros by a full order of magnitude, or two.
As for the circ and recip saw, I absolutely would consider buying them. I love Milwaukee’s Hackzalls and their 5 3/8″ M12 circular saw is nice for the occasional cuts or cutting trim, so a Dewalt version of those would make sense as I have more Dewalt than Milwaukee in my collection.
Corey
For a technical trades guy or technician servicing equipment, it’s a no brainer to grab a 10 year old DeWalt that does more than they need, for half the price of a fuel whatever any day. I know several old hands around the country who still ship/pack around the og 12v max drill, driver, or impact for service work. There’s a huge market outside core trades, man.
Joe framer
Smaller being “technically correct” even if it’s 1/16 smaller, doesn’t make it an “atomic” tool. Which is defined as , “atom” meaning micro small or “energy” which they are not “more” powerful…
Towing the line for sponsored companies doesn’t help the readers ,that actually think these tools are “atomic”. How about getting answers from Dewalt (SBD) to help clarify this line of tools?
Many comments above understand the BS, while some believe the hype. You could be doing a great service for those misguided, less informed readers who would spend their hard earned money on an “atomic” tool thinking it was vastly smaller AND more powerful.
I care about the avg guy and always try to help them spend their hard earned money , wisely. Thank you so much for your blog and I hope you will reach out to SBD to get answers.
Stuart
Sorry, but Dewalt is not a sponsor, not am I toeing the line for any such reasons.
I have already mentioned that I don’t see how the new line positions with their other and more mainstream offerings.
Personally, I think the other new tools will bw the stars of the show, potentially, with the drill and impact being the new budget or entry level “special buy” offerings.
I have not yet received the answers I need to better understand the Dewalt-side marketing behind the tools.
I have seen some of the “OMG don’t buy!!” coverage, and think that such statements are premature – not because of the conclusions themselves, but because I don’t think all the necessary details are on the table yet. In the context of the regular brushless tools, the specs on the Atomic drill and impact seem to fall short. But compared to their other entry-level models, these seem to be iterative improvements. That Dewalt compares them to their entry-level brushed motor drill, and now entry-priced first-generation 20V Max impact driver, says something, as does the bundling of 1.3 or 1.5Ah batteries. But what that “read between the lines” message is in disagreement with the pricing.
In my opinion, the bigger issue is that the tools are not competitive for the price, but we also don’t know what the true market prices will be. My gut feeling is that we’ll see steep discounts for Father’s Day, which might then be the “true” market pricing for the tools. If not, then there’s a significant mismatch with respect to features and specs for the money. If the new drill and impact are not meant to replace the DCD777 and DCF787, there won’t be any answer to the question “who should buy these?”
I have already said all this in my posts about the new tools. If you are looking for sensationalism, you won’t find that here. For you to throw “you must be sponsored” with every new comment is inaccurate, unfair, and even offensive.
Boggsy
Mini circ saw could be cool.
I’ve been refusing to replace my blue ryobi (for free-wheeling one handed use) until dewalt releases an xr circ with the blade on the proper side (left).
I assume right-bladed circ saws were designed for easier short trims. Or it was designed by Ned Flanders, and everyone copied it, not realizing that 99% of the world is right handed, and you can’t see the damn blade.
Maybe they’ll use this opportunity to work on another angle grinder…that still won’t have variable speed for some unfathomable reason. I would own a flexvolt grinder if it just had variable speed. Ever use a wire wheel to intentionally fray/wear a rug (without ripping through)? If I did it at full speed, I’d be dead.
alex
Maybe they will surprise us with a 20v battery compatible with 12V tools (just like a 60V/20V flexvolt battery) and a new 12v lineup. Hence the atomic tools can be used with 12v and 20v batteries.That would be the big announcement. Don’t know if it’s possible though as 20V is not a multiple of 12v. I think it would make a lot of sense,
beomono
hi, i don’t know if the pneumatic impact wrench and battery operated wrench are strong for me to open the nuts on my pickup wheel, how long will it take to recharge it thank you
Stuart
Charging time depends on the battery.
In my opinion, go for a “mid-range” or heavy duty 1/2″ impact if your main focus is on lugnuts.
Impact drivers sound good in theory, but you’re often much better off with a higher powered impact wrench. https://toolguyd.com/can-you-remove-lug-nuts-with-a-cordless-impact-driver/
Here are two higher-torque kit examples:
Milwaukee Impact Wrench
Dewalt Impact Wrench