Dewalt is coming out with a new adapter plate, DWST08017, that will allow many kinds of Dewalt tool boxes, organizers, and accessories to connect to ToughSystem 2.0 tool boxes.
The Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 multi-system adapter will allow cross-platform compatibility with TStak, Pro Organizer, and ToughCase products.
Additionally, integrated slots on both sides can be used to hang power tools and accessories via their belt hooks.
The adapter auto-connects to all ToughSystem 2.0 tool boxes and modules in the same way as a 2.0 tool box or organizer would.
The adapter has clips for small and medium ToughCase accessory kits. It can fit up to 2 medium ToughCases, up to 4 small ToughCases, or a combination of up to 1 medium and 2 small cases, as shown in this product photo.
ToughCases can also be stacked together.
Dewalt Tstak tool boxes and other compatible products can be attached to the adapter via the outer side clips.
As a reminder, Dewalt’s large ToughCase accessory case, which is not shown here, is compatible with Tstak products.
Additionally, Craftsman VersaStack tool boxes and organizers are compatible with Dewalt Tstak components.
Lastly, the adapter also works with Dewalt Pro organizers.
Dewalt’s Pro organizers are NOT Tstak compatible, so how do they attach to the same adapter?
Ah – the adapter appears to be double-sided. Flip it over, and you have side clips positioned to lock Pro system organizers in place. Oh, that’s smart.
ETA: Coming Soon
Why Dewalt feels like they need to wipe mud all over their tough stack boxes in ads is beyond me.
I think that brings a lot more realism to their marketing photos compared to the ones where everything is too clean (often including the models holding the tools). However sometimes it can be a bit overdone, I can’t recall the exact tool box but I remember in one of Stuart’s articles the photos looked like someone had wiped a muddy rag all over it and that had the opposite effect.
they should at least keep it off of the tstack drawer unit which isn’t watertight!
Because the users are a filthy bunch.
In fairness, I think DeWalt’s biggest gap is people who use tools indoors. ToughSystem and Packout are clearly designed for outdoor job site users. However, many professionals only work indoors, like many electricians or woodworkers or trim carpenters or just woodworking hobbyists like me.
The extra bulk of ToughSystem and Packout add cost, weight and decrease usable space. We want a well organized tool system that slows rust in a garage or van, but we don’t need to leave out tools out on a muddy job site in the middle of a monsoon.
Tstak was a great idea, but the quality was too low. They’re too narrow to fit a full sized reciprocating saw or hammer drill. They’re too flimsy to fit a circular saw without bending when you pick them up…and some software weather sealing would have done wonders…not enough to be a DeWalt mud model, but maybe to slow corrosion if you’re storing tools in a garage or get sprinkled on when bringing your tools back from the customer’s house to your vehicle.
Also, their biggest sin was availability….I simply couldn’t buy them anywhere. They are often out of stock online and most of us want to actually see the toolbox before we buy.
(correctionsoftcore, not software…sorry autocorrect plus meidocre eyesight) 🙂
Couldn’t agree more. Something in between TStak and TS/PO would be perfect in size (constantly rolling through finished doorways, etc.) and disposition (I don’t need it hurricane proof). And maybe an option to start with drawers on the bottom (why isn’t this a thing?). And the TStak 4-wheeled dolly, just a little heavier duty.
Many (all?) TStak 2.0 is IP54 rated, is that good enough?
Off the top of my head here are the less rugged systems I know of:
— Tstak/Tstak 2.0/VersaStak. External ~13″x~17″
— Systainer, MakPac, and such. Can definitely handle circular saws (e.g. Makita track saw).
— Hart. I’ve checked them out at Walmart. Wimpy plastic, but has 2 and 3 drawer units with better specs than TStak, Limited choices. External ~13″ x ~19″
— Husky Connect. I just looked at the 2 drawer unit. Resin construction, limited choices and availability. External ~12″ x 21″.
I think if you want more rigid cases, you’re going to end up with TS/Packout/Ridgid/etc construction in any case.
In the US, Dewalt’s TSTAK isn’t IP54 rated — you have to do an international purchase from eBay/Amazon to bring those in from abroad.
I can fit my 36v rear handle and 18v Makita recip with the dual charger in the large versastack box
While still silly, I find this less silly than the hilarious “nobody told the actor what they were actually supposed to be doing” promo shots of tools being used in clearly terrible/impossible ways.
Because then people would be on here commenting about why the boxes are so clean.
There is no mud anywhere. Moisture and some, and dry wall or concrete dust in the first pic.
Awesome. Any reason this wouldn’t connect to my Toughsystem 1.0 boxes?
I second this comment. I have multiple Toughsystem 1.0 boxes that I would like to connect to some Toughsystem 2.0 boxes that I just aquired
Don’t most of the Toughsystem 1.0 and 2.0 already attach? I have a small 1.0 and totes. They both attach to 2.0 boxes.
To my knowledge, ToughSystem 2.0 products all attach to ToughSystem 1.0, except for half-width tool boxes and other products that require a 2.0-style lug at the center.
The PRO Organizer compatibility is an awesome surprise. I must have 8-10 of those from Black Friday sales.
me too. VERY happy about this. Glad I waited and did not by the Etsy version.
Agreed – I have 10 (6 deep, 4 slim) Pros, and this adapter makes me much more likely to add TS 2.0.
Dewalt, please come out with a 4 wheel dolly/cart on casters for the Tough System. The T-stak carts are awesome. Just do that, but made for Tough System.
I have been thinking about making a ToughSytem dolly from plywood with 4” casters. Bolt this plate on top of the dolly and the attachment is secure.
Will make the decision when the plate is released
I would love to have the ts drawers on a dolly
Yes! Roll out the TS Dolly!
I don’t have a need for this but a huge hat tip to DeWalt engineers for a really thoughtful design. Hopefully this ushers in some much-needed similar innovation for other platforms (looking at you, Ridgid).
I just want a drawer box that can go on the bottom of a rolling cart from Ridgid. The new cart is removable so it may happen. Bottom layer drawers, upper layer tool chest so I can access everything without unstacking.
I wonder if I can attach some 3D Printed Packout cleats/feet to it…
If I could lock some of the dozens of Dewalt/Stanley Pro Organizers I have to my Milwaukee stack I would be the happiest toolbox consumer ever! I might even buy some Tstak.
Now I’m giddy as a school girl waiting for this to be released.
Benjamen (who has some posts here) has some great designs at his site: https://3dprints.electronsmith.com/milwaukee-packout-feet/
I literally have spent a month on and off making a similar adapter plate, with varying success, for the medium and small toughcases. I am getting this and modifying it to be packout compatible at the first opportunity.
This has been a rumor for a while and I have been waiting for a long time. It is a great surprise to see it work with the pro organizers! For me that is a huge bonus. Having bought into all 3 systems, I need this!
I do find myself wishing that their shallow pro organizers were more of the Stanley 25-piece container with the removable bins. Those are still available so no loss to the DeWalt brand. But if I am honest, if they were available and compatible with these systems, I would probably find myself buying those instead (I figure I need about 10 more of each to complete my garage workshop storage).
Another minor gripe I have that I am sure someone with a 3d printer can solve is the different sized removable bins within these system. The Pro-organizer and tstak (and versastak) are the same size. The, tough system is not. This plate does go a long way into addressing this and I will probably continue to standardize on the tstak organizer bins.
One side question. Does anyone know if DeWalt still makes the tstak clear top organizer that is the same size as small box? When the versastak came out, it looks like they switched all of those to the thin style which is great for space efficiency. I do enjoy the slightly larger clear lid for some tools because the top handle on the normal box makes it hard to fit some stuff without going to the larger tstak box. It’s a personal preference but I like them better than the standard tstak I boxes.
you can still get the original style DWST17805 on amazon
Actually on second glance I’m not so sure… it looks like they actually kept the old SKU when they updated the product so the pictures on amazon might be meaningless. Might be a crapshoot what you get. Anyone more knowledgeable have an idea?
You are correct. The older style ones have been superseded by the Versastack-style clear top cases. I have ordered multiple via Amazon over the years and the newer ones are all I have received.
This is a step in the right direction, but only seems useful for people who use the wheeled mounts. I like to use the top handle.
Tstak cases can’t handle weight. That’s why I instantly returned them after I bought them. I put 1 circular saw in and saw the thing deforming when I picked it up by the top handle.
What I really really really want is a ToughSystem version of DT70716 (TSTAK Caddy for Small ToughCase Sets). An organizer for those awesome small toughsystem cases, but you apparently can’t get those in the USA yet and it’s TSTAK only. For some reason, Europe gets all the good tstak stuff.
Honest question: Would it help or hurt individual brands to produce cross-platform mounts (if IP rights/licensing would allow it). Maybe an extreme example: A Ryobi plate that would allow Packout mounting. One might argue that Ryobi is shooting themselves in the foot by encouraging non-Ryobi purchases, but what if someone liked the rolling base of one platform and a drawer module from another? It seems like it might encourage purchases rather than cannibalize sales.
Just don’t get me started on the color clashing and my OCD! lol
Dewalt’s about to introduce TS2.0 versions to match a majority of Milwaukee’s Packout offerings (sans garage product line). Other TS2.0 products not yet covered here include:
1. 3-Drawer Unit (Finally!) – DWST08330
2. Deep Version of Full Size Organizer
– Slim Version of Half-Size Clear Lid Organizer
– Re-Launch of TS2.1(?) Radio
– Rolling Cooler w/ Digital Display
Not sure what functionality the display is for—could be controls for fridge-like functionality or something like a built-in stereo…or both.
– Rolling Trunk
(TS2.0 Version of DWST38000)
– Compatible Half-Sized Soft Totes/Bags
– And then there’s a DS400-style Deep Box that appears to have a small work light & dual port charger built into the lid, similar to the upcoming TS2.0 Dual Port Charger.
I bought the Craftsman V20 version of the TS radio and though it sounds absolutely amazing, it’s got enough fatal flaws to make it a no thank you…. The radio reception is silly bad and no external antenna to allow you to try and tweak it. The software that runs the stereo is stupid clutzy and slow to turn on and has an annoying looping Craftsman logo constantly while turned on.
I bought it on a deal and figured I’d adapt it to my M12 batteries via a 20v>12v step down transformer with an LED voltage meter to monitor the voltage. That all worked and very nicely and the battery compartment was perfectly suited to the adaptation, but the clunky interface and crap reception made me abandon the entire idea.
Just because new boxes or accessories are shown in European flyers or catalogs, that doesn’t mean they’ll be available here.
I don’t consider anything to be official unless found on Dewalt’s USA page or social accounts or at USA retailers (online or in stores).
Dewalt definitely under-delivers on TSTAK products in the US and there are better versions / additional options you can only get abroad.
Might disagree with you on ToughSystem though…if Dewalt releases a TS product, you can typically purchase it in the US. I can’t think of a single TS product that’s unavailable stateside. That being said, there have been a couple of versions teased for the 3-drawer unit that never made it, but it’s apparently set to make its debut later this year.
Looks like there are 4 holes in the corners. Wonder if they can be used for caster to turn this into a wheeled base.
I just built one from plywood and some 1X1″ wood. Seems to work well.
I can’t wait for the new rolling Tstak unit. Have two stacks of drawer units on top of it and have access to both towers will be nice.
Wait! Will this be a thing? I need a link because that sounds great!
You mean, this?
I am so thrilled the are finally doing this! I have both Dewalt TStak & Craftsman VersaStack. I have gone all in on the Dewalt Toughcase+ for bits & small tool kits. I love the fact that I can grab a combination of things and they all snap together and I am good to go.
That said. The Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 has some amazing features that I definitely can use. I plan to the two drawer ToughSystem 2.0 on my boat. I am going to try to mount it right over the engine. Still a work in progress.
But I have other setups using TStak/VersaStack. For example, I have Craftsman Mechanic Tools in a VersaStack stack up such that I can roll everything right up to my truck on the TStak dolly. I also have a Dewalt Track Saw (in TStak) stacked up with the Dewalt HEPA vacuum, also TStak, for a mobile Trak Saw Setup. Or I can move the dust collector over to a stack up of TStaks that have all of my sanders and sanding supplies.
I happened to be disabled where I have some mobility issues. So having everything modular and on wheels is becoming essential these days.
The other thing it affords me is I can move workspaces easily or compact everything into storage. With all of my tools in rolling stack, I can know at a glance how many squared feet of storage space I need if I need to stow it all for a period of time. I also can redeploy to any new workspace with minimal effort. And since I heavily invested in cordless options like Dewalt FlexVolt tools (miter saw, etc). I can work practically anywhere. I recently picked up a Ryobi electric start Bluetooth Generator. So I am now highly mobile. Ya know, just in case of space aliens invading.
I am really glad to see this & it will be nice not to have to order it from the UK or elsewhere.
Thanks for the great content, as always, Stuart! ToolGuyd is my happy place (well, maybe not for my checkbook). Thanks again
I think the government should mandate that all brands of toolboxes should be compatible with each other. No need for adapters or people puzled which brand has the best plastic box.
This adapter plate is definitely a step in the right direction. Cross platform and backward compatibility is vital, and the dewalt fans should eat this up. Given the size of the footprint for 2 medium toughcases side by side/4 small cases, this will be able to be half packout compatible with some trimming and some feet added. I made my own out of mdf but couldnt get them to “clip” into the grooves (i used plate hanger springs on the underside and brackets to hold them). This is so much better. I am so stoked.
I wish you could attach the tough system boxes to this. I want something I can mount to a quad and then attach boxes to it.
Did they discontinue van racks?
I believe they did. I’ve tried to find a set with no luck. Can’t understand why on earth they would.
I would love to be able to mount them against the front of my truck bed. I use a load bar but a snap on mount would be cool.
Not compatible with the new boxes
That would explain it. How did you find out, do you have the van rack? I’m thinking I may make my own.
Any idea how long items will show up on Dewalts site before they are available?
This has to be the most exciting Toughsystem piece to come out. Almost like SBD read all the customer reviews and complaints and built exactly what people have been asking for. Just took them 8 or 10 years.
I hope they promote the heck out of this, so that customers know it exists. They seem to have a habit of hiding stuff like this. This should be on every end cap of every HD and Lowes.
This one piece quadruples or better the items available for the Toughsystem ecosystem. All of a sudden ToughSystem looks more competitive with pack out.
There’s no pricing information or ETA yet.
There must be some common timeline for when dewalt posts a new product on their website and when it’s actually released. I hope this isn’t random and this could be six months out.
There are no consistent patterns between PR announcement, Dewalt.com listing, or retail distribution timings.
There are enough new Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 tool boxes and storage accessories that a PR announcement encompassing all of them might be on the way.
Some of those products might see high volume distribution at Home Depot, in which case I would expect this to launch online at around the same time.
Preorder listing aren’t up anywhere, but it might also ship and be available for immediate purchase.
If I had to guess, I’d say it might at least one month out, but even that’s little better than a 50-50 prediction.
Those ts van racks were selling super cheap on marketplace, shoulda picked up a few sets when I had the chance. But with the ds carrier cart and the two drawer box already available they may not make a wheeled 2 drawer box. (Modded mine to one deep drawer) But with wheels the carrier cart is a 27″ too wide. I still would like a toughsystem worktop like Milwaukee, I guess this is their version,made my own toughsystem corded/ cordless 18v/20v vac. Time to wake up DeWalt sleeping when Milwaukee runs laps around em
This adapter could make a great worktop. With the corner holes, you could attach a wood or metal panel to it.
Looks like they are releasing a version of this plate for toughsystem to attach to. It’s being marketed as an adapter for the new HEPA dust extractors. Looks just like this adapter, but has the Toughsystem latches on it and mounted to top of extractor/Vac.
Finally! This took forever to get in there heads. Now if they could just develop the TS and Tstack lines to expand the garage and maybe van options. Not every option has to be water tight. It’s sad Tstak2.0 isn’t easily available for NAmerican market.
A ToughSystem compatible BL vac would be a great addition. However, the self cleaning option could be left out to keep cost down. They could even making it like the rolling box.
What caught my eye are the supposed mounting holes in the corners. What are the holes for?
It’s an absolute shame that TStack 2.0 isn’t available here unless it’s red and says Craftsman. If I wanted red boxes, I’d have Packour.
TStack 2.0 is, IMO, the perfect middle ground of price/performance/size.
I might be alone 8n this but with all this plastic being used I wish some of it was recycled content
Har, just trashed about 6 or so bit boxes.
But the DeWalt storage boxes that quote ” do not connect to anything ” that’s cool.
I could bolt this down on my Gen 1 Ridgid rolling box lid nice 👍
Or add drawers to the Ridgid box…or just buy the DeWalt box
Why in “hockey sticks” isn’t Ridgid 2.0 rolling pro-cart boxes not in Home Depot’s in Ontario, Canada yet????
Every time I look them up on the Canadian site, I get shoved over to the “Niagara Falls” Home Depot site, which has them.
Only problem is….
You have to cross the border and pay “duty” to obtain them, or if you order” you pay duty plus double shipping to pick it up in a store near you.
What is Ridgid or Home Depot waiting for????
Only saying, comparing and branding on forums, getting all points of views from other countries would help and be easier to dish about if someone would release Ridgid 2.0 rolling pro-job crates in all parts of Ontario, Canada!!! Psa- get it done, make your cash.
I’m not sure this is the place to air your feelings about it. This is about a dewalt toughsystem product, nothing to do with ridgid.
Dewalt site shows available now, “coming soon” is replaced with “new”.
Not showing up for sale anywhere yet.
The adapter is available for preorder on Acme tool.
Adapters shipping from Acme today!
Finally! I wonder how long until these are at home depot.
Has anyone actually got one of these yet? Mine is still on backorder.
Yes mine came about 3 weeks ago.
Looks like the adapter plate is available at the Home Depot, at last!