We recently talked about Festool’s newly updated dust extractors, hoses, and wireless remote.
They sent over a new dust extractor (CT 36), equipped with the new hose and features, and a wireless remote, for review.
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I own a CT 26, which had been updated with a HEPA filter.
I put the CT 36 through a few projects, using it for sanding and sawing operation. I paired it with the following tools:
- Corded sander
- Cordless track saw
- Cordless miter saw
- Corded table saw
- Cordless table saw
I only have one remote, and attached it to a 27mm hose. I have a 36mm hose for it, and an owned 50mm hose.
The remote works beautifully well. Setup took a few extra minutes. At first, I couldn’t get it to work – either I pressed a button prematurely, or it wasn’t synced properly at the factory. Referring to the manual, I reset the remote, reconnected it, and from there everything worked perfectly. A good user manual and thoughtful engineering can make hiccups like this stress-free and forgettable.
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I took this photo before routing the vacuum hose out of the way, but I figured I’d share it anyway. The remote is easily accessible, and works like a charm.
And the new vacuum hose? Festool says that the hose has been redesigned to provide improved suction power. I trust this, but I cannot really confirm it. But what I can tell you is that the outer sleeving feels fantastic. It glides smoothly, and it feels durable.
For most users, this will work a lot better than their other sleeved hose.
I think I only have one tool that takes advantage of the new dust hose interface. It might be my imagination, but I feel that it slides into dust collection ports easier than the older style.
The vac worked every bit as well as my older CT 26 when connected to a sander. With the remote, it worked great with a corded track saw. It worked okay with the Milwaukee M18 Fuel 7-1/4″ sliding miter, but the deficiency was in the miter saw’s dust collection design.
I’ve been using it with a SawStop jobsite saw. First I used my 50mm hose, requiring me to set the vacuum to manual mode, since I didn’t remove the remote from my smaller hose. I forgot to turn on the vac once or twice, but that’s happened before. Because the table saw draws so much amperage, I cannot plug it into the vac’s auto sensing port the same way I can a small sander.
The dust collection on the SawStop saw will require some more accessories on my part. Connected to the large under-table dust port, dust still shoots out the top. Connected to the blade guard dust port (SawStop sent me that optional guard when they sent the saw), and dust shoots out the below-table guard. This is at least partly due to the material I was cutting on the saw. So, a splitter is in my future, and I’ll see how using 2 hoses handles things.
Here’s the tough question – who should buy this?
The other day, I posted a preview of the new CT Cyclone accessory, and there were a number of comments talking about shop vacuums.
From what I have seen, Festool’s dust extractors work best when considered part of a system, and paired with tools designed to deliver excellent dust collection capabilities. I also use mine for light cleanup tasks.
In my mind, a shop vac is good for cleanup tasks, and can serve as dust extractors in some capacities. But dust extractors perform better in longer dust-creation work sessions. The Festool CT’s motor, filter, filtered bags, narrow and maneuverable hose, wheels, wheel brake, hose and cord wrap, capacity, form factor, native tool connector, and now the new accessories – they’re optimized for being attached to tools.
Shop vacuums? They’re generally designed for cleanup tasks.
I have never regretted purchasing my CT 26, and the fact that it was a considerable investment makes that more meaningful. A lot of Festool users tend to justify their purchases, to themselves and others, but I like to think that I have stayed unbiased over the years. Buying my CT 26 when I did, it stung my wallet a lot. And it would sting again if I had to replace it out of pocket.
At the time, I really needed it. If I wanted to cut, sand, or route wood, 9 times out of 10 it was in our apartment’s second bedroom. And so I NEEDED excellent dust collection. That CT was among my most-used tools in that apartment, and again in the next one, and it’s still one of my most-used power tools today.
In no uncertain terms, if you have the need, and can justify the price, Festool’s latest dust extractors are their best yet.
The changes are relatively minor, compared to the previous CT vacs. If you already own a CT 26, 36, or 48, you can upgrade your dust extractor as you see fit.
Do you want the updated “hose garage,” complete with T-Loc mount? Look for part no. 204040 ($50 at Festool Products).
The new cord wrap? Look for part no. 203722 ($20 at Festool Products).
If you have an existing hose, there are aftermarket sleeving kits you can use to improve its handling. Or, if you need a different hose size than what you have, or need to replace a worn or damaged hose, the new braided sleeved anti-static hoses are great (see new hoses via Festool Products).
(Non-sleeved hoses are discounted at the moment, but if you’re going to spend money on a new hose, I’d recommend budgeting for one of the new ones.)
The remote module works with all CT 26, 36, and 48 models. It’s $80 via Festool Products, and additional remotes are also available for $45 each.
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(Why am I linking to Festool Products? Well, I bought my first Festool tools from Tool Nut, via Amazon at the time. Festool Products is a Tool Nut company. I have purchased other Festool tools and accessories from them since then. There was a problem once, and they made it right. With that first purchase, I had a question about my order. I called them up on a Saturday morning, and they left me with a lasting positive impression. I’m a happy customer. ToolGuyd has a friendly relationship with Tool Nut and Festool Products, and they are also an affiliate partner.)
Festool tools can be difficult to review or even talk about. Not everyone needs a $730+ dust extractor, and those that don’t have such needs can find it hard to see why anyone might need one.
These CT vacs offer excellent usability, performance, and control.
These newest models make the vacs a little bit better. New users should definitely consider these models over the outgoing ones. I haven’t seen discounted versions of the previous vacs, but there are many hoses and cleaning kits on sale.
It’s nice that current CT users can upgrade to some or all of the new features if they choose.
But really, the new remote is the star of the show. Being able to connect the vac to a cordless tool and not have to go to the on-vac controls every time I want to turn the power on and off? Wonderful. It didn’t take me long to get used to it. No, it’s not as fast or effortless as connecting a corded tool to the vac’s automatic-control plug, but that’s also limited to lower amperage tools such as sanders.
I am pleased with the new gear, and will be purchasing a remote system for my personal CT 26.
Thank you to Festool USA for providing the review sample unconditionally.
RKA
I purchased the newer 27mm hose and compared it to the older 27mm straight thru hose. The air speed was higher out of the new hose, it’s more flexible, lighter and less apt to snag on things. Whether the fine dust collection is incrementally better with the new hose is impossible to tell, but I would hope with the better airflow it would be. And durability remains to be seen, but if you’re a home/hobbiest user it’s probably a non-issue.
I also have an aftermarket remote. Since my extractor is on the back side of a bench and router table, its been really handy. There are times I shut off the tool, but want the extractor running to clean up some debris, and reaching down under the table to flip the switch, then flip it back to tool activated mode is a nuisance. And for the cordless saw it’s great having a remote in my pocket. With the added features, I wouldn’t consider the outgoing models for the measly 10% discount.
But the price is something to contend with. Something to take a little bit of the sting out of it…watch ebay’s Home page for a sitewide coupon with a max savings of $100, often only good for the day. That’s the only way to get a discount on new Festools.
Randy
The Fastcap remote control at $30, is an excellent, reliable, affordable alternative.
https://www.fastcap.com/product/remote-control-vacuum
I have used several for years. My older style housed the remote in a elastic vecro band. It could be wrapped around a vacuum hose, handle or your wrist. Or, removed and placed on the workbench or in your shop apron.
To replicate the Velcro band, you could buy a cheap wrist wallet off eBay, slide it in and cut a hole for the button.
For $30, try one out, you will be buying more.
RKA
There is a 15A remote outlet on Amazon for about $14, which I find handy for regular vacuums or HVLP units. Be careful to get the 15A because there are few, most are 13A or less. Functionally it’s the same as the fastcap version.
There are some nuances between a remote controlled outlet and Festool’s solution. Whether that’s important to the buyer is another matter. With my Max Sys, you leave the extractor in tool activated mode. So a tool plugged in can activate it or you can activate with the remote. With these remote outlets you have to put it in manual mode, which means you always activate the extractor with the remote. You lose the ability to have the tool activate it. Further, the outlet on the extractor is deactivated in manual mode, so you need to plug the tool in elsewhere (possible requiring an extension cord depending on the circumstances). Festool’s solution also adds Bluetooth compatibility for activation by cordless tools using the newer Bluetooth batteries (Max Sys doesn’t have this).
KokoTheTalkingApe
“If I wanted to cut, sand, or route wood, 9 times out of 10 it was in our apartment’s second bedroom.”
I do all my cutting in my living room and hallway. For sanding and finishing I haul everything outside, and hope the weather stays good. And there isn’t too much pollen in the wind.
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The yeti
R u for real. So glad to live in Canada where we have. …. yards
fred
Probably like you (in Canada) – I take a break from most projects in the winter months. For me its because the yard of my winter condo backs onto the Gulf of Mexico. Seriously, my tool collection in Sanibel is limited to what I need for the occasional light maintenance task or picture hanging.
I could fit the whole place there into my 2400 sq. ft. (minus the furnace room) basement shop up north.
Stuart
I took work to my parents’ backyard on occasion, especially messier work such as metal cutting or grinding.
Gotta do what you gotta do.
My earlier DIY projects were in my bedroom or living room of previous apartments. A 6 gallon Shop Vac with Cleanstream filter was enough until I started to do a lot more cutting, routing, and sanding.
KokoTheTalkingApe
Gotta do what you gotta do. Word.
Applying many thin layers of varnish and rubbing them out means I don’t have to worry about dust and random airborne crap nearly as much as flowing it on with a brush. It only takes about 17 times longer, and requires a buttload of thinner.
fred
I like French polish – shellac instead of varnish – but just the same in that you use thin coats rubbed our as you go along until you get the desired depth and high gloss finish.
fred
Apropos French polish and today’s date – La Fête – I should have said: Joyeux Quatorze Juillet!
KokoTheTalkingApe
fred, you are clearly a skilled and cultured gentleman!
Julian
Plenty of Xmas light remote controls at Menards, Amazon , etc for between $5-12 that will easily trigger shopvacs or a festool vacs. As mentioned above – just check the amp or HP ratings.
Fastcap makes good stuff, but their remote is not a good buy.
Rob Gibson
So they put an auto sensing port on the Festool. But it can’t handle the amperage of a table saw.
Festool makes such garbage.
Stuart
They’ve always had auto-sensing ports.
There are current limits to the AC port for a reason. Would you instead prefer to connect higher-amperage tools and have them starved for power?