Ryobi has surprised us with the launch of 3 new 18V cordless woodworking power tools – a track saw, table saw, and a new miter saw.
All 3 tools are part of Ryobi’s growing 18V One+ HP lineup of brushless tools.
These are all also first-ever tools for Ryobi.
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Ryobi 18V HP Cordless Track Saw (PTS01)
Ryobi says that the new 18V cordless 6-1/2″ track saw can powerfully rip through materials with control and accuracy, without the hassle or inconvenience of a cord.
It can cut up to 260 linear feet of material per charge when powered with a 4Ah High Performance battery.
The saw has a 1-15/16″ max cutting depth at 90° (with track), and -1° to 48° bevel range.
According to press materials, the saw provides 55″ rip capacity with the (2) included tracks, and additional tracks can be added for extended cutting capacity. Each track has a length of 27.5″.
Note: My experience with track saws would have me caution that 55″ of rip capacity might be clumsy on a 55″ track. A 55″ track is a comfortable length for 48″ and slightly longer cuts.
Key Features & Specs
- 6-1/2″ blade size
- Brushless motor
- 4,300 RPM
- Riving knife
- -1° – 48° bevel range
- 1-15/16″ max cutting capacity at 90° (with track)
- Adjustable depth control knob
- Depth scale
- Dust port with 1-1/4″ and 1-7/8″ compatibility
- Track and anti-tip adjustments
The tool-only, PTS01B, comes with a 40T carbide-tipped blade, (2) 27.5″ tracks, (2) track connection bars, track clamp, blade wrench, and track wrench.
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The kit, PTS01K, also comes with a charger and 18V 4Ah High Performance battery.
Price: $329 for tool-only, $399 for the kit
ETA: April 2022
Ryobi 18V HP Cordless Table Saw (PBLTS01)
The new Ryobi 18V One+ HP brushless table saw features a 8-1/4″ blade size and up to 12″ of rip capacity.
Ryobi says that the table saw can rip to 240 linear feet of material per charge with (2) 4Ah High Performance batteries.
Key Features & Specs
- 8-1/4″ blade
- 4,500 RPM
- 12″ rip cut capacity (right of blade)
- Steel frame for durability and strength
- Adjustable Self-aligning fence
- Lower fence for cutting thin materials
- On-board storage for push stick and accessories
The tool-only, PBLTS01B, comes with the saw, push stick, blade guard with anti-kickback pawls, 24T carbide-tipped blade, rip fence, miter gauge, and blade wrenches.
The kit, PBLTS01K, also comes with a charger and (2) 18V 4Ah High Performance batteries.
Price: $339 for tool-only, $399 for the kit
ETA: April 2022
Ryobi 18V HP 10″ Cordless Miter Saw (PBLMS01)
The new Ryobi 18V One+ HP brushless 10″ sliding miter saw offers 12″ max cross-cutting capacity, a 47° miter range, and single bevel adjustment.
Ryobi says that their new cordless miter saw can makes up to 550 cuts per charge with a High Performance 4Ah battery.
Key Features & Specs
- 10″ blade size
- 4,100 RPM
- 12″ max cross-cutting capacity at 90°
- 47° miter range (left and right)
- 0-45° single bevel range
- LED cut line indicator
- 1-1/4″ dust port
- Carrying handle
- Material support wings
The tool-only, PBLMS01B, comes with a 40T carbide-tipped blade, work clamp, blade wrench, and dust bag.
The kit, PBLMS01K, also comes with a charger and 18V 4Ah High Performance battery.
Price: $349 for tool-only, $399 for the kit
ETA: April 2022
Ryobi 18V cordless power tools are available exclusively at Home Depot.
Discussion
Ryobi describes their new cordless track saw as being one of their most requested 18V One+ tools, but I think the same could also be said about the new cordless table saw and 10″ sliding miter saw.
In the competitive space, Craftsman recently announced a new line of Brushless RP cordless power tools at Lowe’s, featuring 7 tools that only seem to have received revamped branding and just 1 new tool – an oscillating multi-tool.
I shared my opinion that Craftsman’s RP tools are a tough sell, and Ryobi’s new 18V HP expansion of brushless woodworking saws reinforces my point.
Ryobi seems to be listening to their users and giving them exactly what they want. Competitors will have to step their game in response.
As for the tools, it’s interesting that the new Ryobi track saw comes with (2) 27.5″ tracks. This is undoubtedly to help with packaging and shipping considerations. I would presume that additional track sections will be sold separately, at least online.
Jared
Wow! Those are some significant tools to add to the portfolio. Ryobi is killing it – and making SBD’s Craftsman look a little silly.
Mike
Ryobi makes crap tools they can put they want I’m still not going to buy them craftsman brushless tools are professional a lot better than Ryobi and just as good if not better than Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita
Jeremy
How do you know they are crap tools if you don’t buy any? If your a diy or home owner they are great tools. Especially their 18v one + line in which they have 260 tools. If your not a contractor you don’t need DeWalt or Makita. But hey if you want to throw money away because if biased option with no facts all power to you.
Mark
I’m a contractor, I use Ryobi tools extensively. Admittedly, there are better quality brands: however, cost/benefit analysis, IMO, has demonstrated equally across most brands. One note, as my great grandfather taught me 40 years ago, it’s the skills and abilities of an artist that overcome…not the best tool money can buy. I drive a stripped work van, not a platinum F-350 crew cab dually.
MIKE GUENTHER
I am a retired carpenter/superintendent with over 40 yrs exp. I have used just about all of the cordless brands and for the money, you can’t go wrong with Ryobi.
RI Guy
I agree that skill is number one. But any contractor whose business side only (fancy pickup types) is not going to use a ryobi user. (Or craftsman for that matter.) Pretty much ketchup and mustard or other pro brands.
Mopar4wd
I’m mostly a dewalt guy since I bought my first cordless drill over 20 years ago, but 10-12 years ago some one got me one of those ryobi super cheap Christmas sales sets with drill, circ saw, light and, radio. Honestly they were much better then i thought they would be and now I run both Dewalt and Ryobi, I’m mostly a DIY home owner user now, but even when I was doing a fair amount of jobs, the ryobi stuff seemed to take it in stride. You also get the variety of tools with Ryobi that really make it a worthwhile platform.
David Z
I wish we could hear Stuart’s thoughts when he reviews these comments. They could be entertaining.
Ryobi tools are certainly not crap, and they stand up to what huge portion of home owners, handyman, and even some contractors need. They have historically offered unique options that other lines didn’t.
The jury on the new Craftsman is still out, but suspect you may have positioned them higher then even SBD claims.
Franck B.
I’m a pretty demanding user, and I primarily use the DeWalt 20V line. I’ve been pretty happy with it except for a few notable exceptions. In the last year, I’ve replaced some of my daily-use DeWalts that were due for service with Craftsman. The price of the Craftsman on sale was competitive with–actually less than–the price of DeWalt service + bridge toll + gas (and that doesn’t even consider the time to go to the service depot). These were the top end impact driver, the brushless semi-compact reciprocating saw and a BL 3/8 impact wrench.
Despite small differences in specifications to make them appear not as good as the DeWalt versions which appear identical, they perform just as well for me in actual use. They also have the added benefit that my tools and batteries are never “borrowed”, which for me is actually pretty useful.
I had also bought some of their automotive-focused tools which are available as Craftsman and Mac, but not DeWalt. Once I had several batteries, it was a simple decision to get the Craftsman set of finish nailers/staplers (which several crew members decided they wanted as well).
So, I’m a pretty demanding user but I have been pretty pleased with the performance of the Craftsman 20V tools.
On the other hand, I’d been pretty unhappy with the Ryobi tools… until I learned not to ask too much of them. Now I’ve limited my Ryobi purchases to their offerings that aren’t commonly provided by other manufacturers, and I’m happy that they address these lower volume tools, at more affordable prices. A great example is the 1/2×18 belt sander, which I use on automotive panel spot welds that can’t be reached with a grinder… about 2-3 times a year, and for $100 it was worth it.
I feel I can rely more on the daily-use Craftsman tools, though. Even the plastic used for the tool housing seems to be superior to that used by Ryobi.
Melvin
I had 1 of 4 Ryobi tools fail under light use (finish nailer stopped firing after less than 50 nails). Still waiting after more than 2 months for them to send the tool back under warranty.
This is in contrast to 1 of 2 Bosch tools failing (drill chuck stopped working, still looked new when I sent it back for warranty). 0 of 9 Milwaukee tools. 0 of 2 Ego tools.
Homeowner/ DIY, using tools more and more as I learn. I would consider this a high failure rate for Ryobi and Bosch. Wonder if this is others’ experience?
Mopar4wd
I follow a bunch of Ryobi groups on FB. From there I learned most Ryobi stuff is pretty reliable but some you should proceed with caution. If some one is complaining about a broken tool 99% of the time it’s a cordless nailer or a 40V battery. Based on this I have avoided both. The only tool I have seen consistently posted other then those two are the older reciprocating saws.
David
I’ve gotten so used to cordless tools that getting out my corded Makita tracksaw is a “aw, darn it, now I need to run an extension cord to the location I’m in” moment. I’ll likely pick up the tracksaw when it hits Direct Tools as a blemish or refurb unless I find a DeWalt at a nice price sooner.
Both the tablesaw and the chop saw make me wonder if/when Ryobi will do a dual battery setup like we’ve seen the other manufacturers doing. I still prefer my corded chopsaw and tablesaw since I use both for heavier materials that require more power, or just grab a cordless circular saw if it’s smaller things being done where the materials are.
Luke H
I am currently waiting on a deal for the Dewalt FlexVolt track saw. It’s been on my wish list for some time now. I didn’t see any compelling deals over the holidays but I admittedly didn’t try any of the stacked discounts at some of the suppliers.
The bare tool is listed for $399, the kit is $529 and up depending on the configuration and length of track included. I don’t need the battery and charger, so may look at bare tool options for now and pick up the track(s) separately.
Big Richard
Acme is running 10% off DeWalt power tools all month. Get’s you $40 off the bare tool, not awful.
In years past they have had a 15% for St. Patrick’s Day (last year was only 10%), I’d at least hold off until then just in case.
John Blair
I have stopped using my Festool Track Saw for the Flexvolt Track Saw for the same reason. Maybe if I had started with a cordless version of the Festool or used other Festool cordless tools it would be different but the running power really takes you out of the moment.
RI Guy
Yes. Same for me. Also it turns out I like the parallel plunge of flexvolt more than pivot of festool. That said my festool sanders are still the gold standard.
TonyT
Ryobi has announced a dual battery system:
a mower with dual 40V batteries 🙂
(Given their new 40V vacs, maybe Ryobi will use their OPE 40V batteries on high power tools instead of 18V x 2).
CoBlue
Some of their new 40v tools like the rear tine tiller actually use a *quad* battery system.
Big Richard
It still only runs on one battery at a time, it just can take up to three spares for extended runtime. Kind of like their new big zero turn mowers take up to 3x80v batteries and an additional 4x40v as supplemental juice, but if you want you can run it just on a single 40V battery (for about 5 mins).
Snaz
I have a dual 18v mitre saw by Ryobi. Had it for a few years
Shawn
Ryobi did a duel battery miter saw P3650B, then they discontinued it. https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/33287170760
Julian Tracy
These prices are so close to Dewalt amd Makita pricing, I don’t see these as for anyone except existing Ryobi users. No doubt they’ll have aggressive sales pricing though.
Stuart
They’re nowhere close to Dewalt and Makita pricing.
GNew
Prices are not even close. 50% more to go from Ryobi to a Dewalt or Makita when looking at kit prices.
Ryobi Track saw
Kit with 1 battery: 399$
Bare Tool: 329$ (Includes Track)
Dewalt Track Saw
Kit with 1 battery: 619$ (Acme Tools)
Bare Tool: 399$ (Does not include track, Acme Tools)
Makita
Kit with 2 batteries: 599$ (Toolnut)
Bare Tool: 350$ (Does not include track, Toolnut)
TonyT
The Makita is close…if you are lucky enough to grab it during one of its periodic sales.
Chris
But it’s not. The ryobi comes with the track, you still have to buy the track for the Makita.
King duck
Because Ryobi never goes on sale. You can’t reply compare deals to list pricing.
TonyT
It all depends on the deals, your needs, & budget. The Makita track saw typically goes on sale for kit price ($500 in the past, probably more now) with 2 extra batteries and maybe a track. If you want more batteries, and especially if the track is included, that can be a good deal.
The best Ryobi deals are typically “buy this starter kit, get a free tool”. Right now, they’re running a deal on getting multiple HP tools for a set price, but the track saw is way too expensive for that deal.
Probably the best way to get a great deal is to wait for Direct Tools Outlet to have a great price. DTO can be more expensive than HD, but if you’re patient you can get great deals (e.g. a coworker picked up the 9AHr HP battery for $80. Sadly I had to pass on that deal). Those deals are limited in time & quantity, somewhat similar to my Makita deal (I got the track saw kit on HD closeout for $250, then bought a rail for $75).
Gordon
I’m excited for competition! But the prices are a little higher than I expected.
Matt the Hoople
Yeah but Ryobi stuff goes on sale a lot. I would consider these for my limited DIY uses. I don’t need super run times for what l do. I don’t need super precision because I have like 5 caulking guns cause I keep misplacing them and having to buy another.
Saulac
Unfortunately the track does not look compatible to Makita’s. Surprised that Ryobi get the track saw before Milwakee. Or could be TTI strategy of let’s sell a bunch of Ryobi first.
LK
Surely a Milwaukee track saw is on the way but the high pricing of this Ryobi version doesn’t bode well for it. I’m going to guess $450 tool only.
IndianaJonesy (Matt J.)
TTI produces but does not have final say in Milwaukee’s tool strategies. I’m sure there’s more to the relationship than that (where TTI would potentially have to worry about stepping on Milwaukee’s turf if a release were iminent), but Milwaukee themselves are the ones that set their tool roadmap.
Mike
If that was an M18 Tracksaw I’d be interested. Still it’s nice to see some reasonable priced options for a track saw now.
Perry
The table saw doesn’t really make sense to me, when you can get 24½ inch rip capacity for $120 more from dewalt or Milwaukee. Maybe there’s something I’m missing, but the when it gets above $300 I’m looking at features for the price and a 12 inch rip capacity is a big negative
Perry
I should also add that the 4ah batteries included seem to imply that it pulls much less amperage than its competitors, which would mean less capability, but that is an assumption.
Mopar4wd
Looks like it’s designed as a quick jobsite saw, not a primary saw. I can see the use for it at that price. One of my coworkers does flooring work on the side I know uses a small old (black and decker maybe) 8″ table saw with a 12 or 14″ rip to cut laminate flooring on site.
Ecotek
Agreed. When I saw 12″ rip I was pretty surprised. I’m sure it would be ok for some users, but for the most part it seems very limiting.
Nathan
the track saw is intriguing to me but I want to see a side by side to see how well it really works – adjustments and squareness to cut. I expect it to work well as most ryobi stuff does the job. Might be under powered and it might need a higher tooth count blade for a clean finish – and I’d be OK with that for 399.
The track bothers be but like said above I bet there will be a 55 or say 52 inch single piece add on later and I’d buy that.
The table saw looks a bit non starter for me. And the mitre saw in interesting – but I don’t know I’d buy it. I’m not in the market for a cordless mitre or table saw but I know others are.
ALso do you think this means a Ridgid model of the track saw is coming in a year.
aaron s
The reason I’m still in Ryobi despite being mostly red at home and yellow at work is the breadth of the system for occasional use tools. For stuff I use twice a year I don’t need pro level prices but I do need the tool to work when I need it and that’s where Ryobi fits for me. extension chainsaw, power cleaner, 15ga,18ga nail guns all great to have but rather not invest real money in them. Ryobi moving upmarket isn’t resulting in products that I am likely to buy, but every tool they release increases the odds that they’ll put out something at random that makes sense as an oddball.
Any of this batch of tools I’ll probably hold out for an M18 version.
James C
I’ve never used a track saw but considering how much I use a normal circular saw and fence, I think it would really appreciate one. But why the heck are they so much more expensive? Some of the design differences seem like the’d add negligible costs (different blade guard, dust collection, track interface on shoe). The track itself adds some cost. Are those the drivers? Or is it because a premium brand set the bar so high and competition hasn’t brought it down yet? Maybe all of the above?
Saulac
I guess the long track add logistics cost. But never understand why only Makita willing to add a slot to some of their circular saws so they can be used with the track.
Nathan
same here – why the big boys won’t put track capable sole plates out there for their standard circ saws? I’d probably pay 100 or so to buy a plate that makes my current circ saw work
also why are they all around the 6 1/2 size vs 7 1/4.
fred
I’m guessing that the 160-165mm (6.5 inch class) blade size – versus the more common 7-1/4 inch was a choice based on power issues. IMO – I’d like to see if Makita with their 40V XGT – or 36V LXT x 2 – or perhaps Dewalt with Flexvolt could step up to a 210mm blade as on the corded TS75 – but maybe that would be a stretch too far.
MichaelT
If my experience in joining/aligning two 55″ makita tracks to cut the long side of sheet goods is anything close to common experience, I’d hate to think I needed to use joined track to cut the short side, every time.
That said, the price is compelling save for when someone is running a special on Makita or Dewalt.
MM
Agreed. I think Stuart is right that they are using 27.5″ track sections to make shipping and merchandising easier but I wouldn’t even think about buying a track saw unless I could get longer 1-pc tracks separately. A track saw without good track becomes more hassle and more expense than using a board as a guide for a traditional circ saw.
Robert
At this price point I fear the Rybinsk connector system will not be even as good as the OEM Festool system, which as noted is abandoned for third party solutions. A misalignment at the track junction really does defeat the purpose of the track saw. So strongly advise waiting for the longer track before plunging in.
fred
I second your experience – for Festool tracks – with OEM connectors. I ended up using an aftermarket (Betterley) jig to get a straight cut – and heard that others like TSO connectors. Festool seems to have finally recognized their shortcomings and is launching new connectors that may help fix the problem. Still – when I can I use a longer (1900mm or 2700mm) guide rail when I can – and might have bought a 3000mm or even 5000mm rail if they had been available when I bought the 2700. The appeal of shorter rails is obvious for easy transport – but if you can’t reliably join them dead-on straight – then then a major attraction for having a track saw is lost.
Joe
I have a corded Makita track saw and (2) 4′ tracks. I might sell it off for this but! I like the makita and its systainer
Ether
Makita has had cordless track for some time now…
Big Richard
“Craftsman recently announced a new line of Brushless RP cordless power tools at Lowe’s, featuring 7 tools that only seem to have received revamped branding and just 1 new tool – an oscillating multi-tool”
The jig saw is new as well, they previously did not have a brushless jig saw.
But I agree that tools like this would be a good fit for their new V20 RP line. Their big brother DeWalt does not offer a 10″ cordless miter saw, so a V20 RP version would make sense. I also think DeWalt will eventually upgrade their FlexVolt table saw to a 10″ blade, which would make an 8 1/4″ V20 RP model another step-down option under the Craftsman label. Ryobi gets it, what can I say. They just do.
Stuart
Yes, but they still haven’t officially announced the jig saw, and it’s also still not available yet.
Dewalt does have a 10” miter saw, but only in Europe.
Big Richard
They actually have two 250mm (10″) models, the DCS727 and DCS778. The 727 is very similar in form to the 2x60v DHS790 available in the North American market. Still kinda blows my mind that they never offered it here in NA.
Bob
Just saw a video yesterday about Bosch’s 3 new cordless miter saws, including a 10″ and now Ryobi is releasing one. Dewalt is basically the only big player without one and it absolutely blows my mind that they haven’t released one in NA.
The Flexvolt 12” is impossible to find right now and 7 1/4” is a bit outdated. Maybe they’ll release a new 10” and updated versions of the others. Doubtful, but one can hope.
Big Richard
Agreed, all around. There are some leaks out there that a new single battery 60v 12″ FlexVolt model is coming. Personally I think it would make more sense as a 10″ model, since they already have the 2x60v 12″ FlexVolt, but who knows. It’s not quite official yet, so it could be wrong. Maybe a 10″ 20v FlexVolt Advantage/Power Detect is on the horizon as well.
Nathan
There seems to be a happy place for the size of this new 8-1/2 blade table saw due to new requirements for the gap between the table edge and the blade – vs having to have a larger table surface.
and while it’s not for me I can see a benefit to some.
Mopar4wd
The track saw pricing does under cut some brands but not the huge bang for the buck I have come to expect from Ryobi. As some one else mentioned when a brushless circular saw sells for $135 I’m not sure why track saws are so expensive other then the track and shipping. Really seems like something that should be like $250.00. Still if it goes on sale aggressively like Ryobi tends to do I might get one as long as the track alignment works OK.
Tom
At the end of the promotional video, we see a new tool, I think it’s a new nailer hp.
GNew
Framing Nailer!
Stacey Jones
Hmm. I was about to buy the new 40v Makita Tracksaw and some other Woodworking tools and was only waiting for a decent sale… Now Ryobi finally gets a tracksaw. I haven’t compared the stats yet, but this is now tempting. Trouble is I already bought Makita track…I have tons of Ryobi batteries though. This has a riving knife and the Makita has anti-kickback. It would be nice to have less chargers, but I don’t want something worse than the Makita.
King duck
More than a little annoying ryobi releases a track saw before Milwaukee did.
John
Well I guess the track saw may wind up in my garage….
Josh
Real question is if the table saw is going to have the same stupid useless miter gauge slot with the tabs or they going to give us a standard square one so the thing can use jigs like every other table saw brand finally. I shouldn’t have to buy extra miter gauges to cannibalize or take an angle grinder to make a cross cut sled.
David Z
Why anyone uses non-standard miter slots escapes me. There’s no benefit to the maker and it hampers and frustrates the user. If there were a User Tribunal, these would get assessed a Manufacturer’s Stupidity fine.
(I’m OK, really. Just need to breathe… Mike up above got me riled up.)
James C
I’ve always assumed the tabbed miter saw slots were used on compact table saws because they help prevent the miter gauge and workpiece from tipping off the table if you move it back too far. It’s annoying but I can see why they’d do that on smaller tables.
Mike
All we need now is cordless framing and roofing gun
Derek
Dang it, 2 days ago I finally pulled the trigger on ordering my Makita (corded) track saw, it gets delivered tomorrow.
Question: Do ya’ll think I should return it, and get this for basically the same price? I’m super torn. arhg
Simon
I am hobbyist (corded) track-saw user 100% committed to the Ryobi 18V cordless line. However, sadly, I will NOT be buying this Ryobi track-saw yet since the rail pattern is NOT compatible with the Festool rail pattern (the “second” t-slot faces down, on the Festool and Makita it faces up). This means that you won’t be able to use the 100s of Festool pattern track accessories – notably parallel guides and rail squares with the Ryobi rails. I wonder why they made such a strange decision?
If I can buy a Ryobi tracksaw without the rail AND someone tests that the saw works well with Festool pattern rails then I’ll definitely buy-in. Until then I’m just going to sulk and wait.
Jay
Has anyone been able to find the extra tracks for the Ryobi track saw? Home Depot says out of stock all the time.
John
I snagged some online from Home Depot online in early November.
It was annoying waiting though.